Since we know that we will get new skin tones for trolls that includes also sand trolls . Why blizzard keeps refusing to make Amani -forest trolls playable. I think the horde could benefit more to add the forest trolls and repopulate Zulaman than adding the Vulpera.
Also i wanted also to ask. The blood elves will have also blue eyes, does that mean that they are completely cured by their addiction ? And the differences between the High elves are going to be minor ? except that high elves now are more like âneutralâ ?
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The blue eyes are confirmed to only be for NPCâs I believe.
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There hasnât been anything that explicitly states the use of the yellow skin means the player is playing a sand troll. A facet of the Darkspear Tribe is that they are the most versatile jungle tribe in terms of appearance; where some tribes are nearly all, for example, blue skinned and red-haired; the Darkspear have a greater range of colours.
Now, I am stretching that here to have âthe range of blue and purplesâ to also include yellow but⌠what Iâm getting at is that, in terms of the race as presented; that yellow playable troll is a Darkspear.
This wonât stop the RPers, of course, but thatâs us playing with the game as presented and applying our own imagination to it; as we do when people RP forest trolls, or sand trolls already. The playable troll isnât actually either of those.
The blood elf blue eyes have since been discovered to be WoWhead storming ahead with speculation. Itâs a colour option that will be used solely for NPCs, and apparently will not be available to the belves.
If this DID change, it doesnât indicate anything more about the addiction that the yellow eyes already do and the differences between belves and helves would remain solely political.
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Thank you very much for the clarification . Didnât think it like this.
What Lizz said, some (most?) of the eyes datamined are mostly NPC eyes, unless Humans suddenly get glowing eyes to, that it!
While I personally would love to have, actual and proper Sand Trolls playable, with the recent update to the Horde Troll racial description focussing more on the DARKSPEAR part⌠I firmly belief it is like
A stretch? Surely! But somehow also not really since they have been living in Durotar, a desert, for more then a decade now! Or they could have been former Farakki who got adopted into the Tribe(I donât know if it works that way for Trolls?)
You may be misunderstanding how this addiction to magic work.
Even while the Blood Elves had blue eyes they were addicted to magic, but at the time they had the Sunwell which sated that addiction passively for them. It was only after the Sunwell was corrupted with Keâthuzardâs rebirth, and then destroyed by Kaelâthas, that the High Elves began to feel the withdrawals of their addiction.
High Elves and thus also Blood Elves have been addicted to magic for many years by the time the World of Warcraft era struck.
The blue, the green and the yellow colours are all references to the kind of magic that the High Elf or Blood Elf predominately surrounds himself or herself with.
All Blood Elf players may have access to the golden eyes, but canonically it is reserved for Priests and Paladins due to their hefty light-magic usage.
The green glow that Blood Elves have come from fel. In the Silvermoon Blood Elvesâ case this would largely be from the fel crystals that you see spread around in Quelâthalas powering the floating structuring now that the Sunwell is not doing that.
The blue glow would come from the Sunwell, the arcane magic therein.
A little fun fact about High Elves in general, it would appear that blizzard prefers the narrative that most High Elves do not have an eye glow much akin to that of the Blood Elvesâ green glow.
If you look at their latest cinematic styled films as well as comics, the High Elven rangers and civilians at the very least are not drawn with a blue glow. The old OG High Elf model also was not designed with glowing blue eyes either. So why the âHigh Elfâ model have a blue glow now is probably just because blizzard wanted to do minimal work with it, and they just copypasted the Blood Elf model to the Alliance and rather than designing totally new eyes without a glow for the High Elves, they just painted the green glow, blue instead.
We have seen the blue glow on High Elves on the more magic specialised in past designs of the High Elves, such as the priest unit in WC3, but the rangers and such did not have the same glow.
That is just some Blood Elf/High Elf trivia for you here.
As for the trolls⌠I had really hoped blizzard did not introduce some Horde-enemy troll tribe colours into the mix, but oh well. I would rather not see the amani make a third return to Zulâaman to be honest. They had their butts kicked thrice now, first by the combined human and High Elf coalition, then twice by the Alliance and Horde coalition.
The remaining tribesmen allied with the pandaria invading zandalari and had their asses kicked⌠again⌠then some moved to Dazarâalor where they again again again got their asses kicked due to the zandalariâs orders.
One gotta realise when it is time to rest.
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Well, I mean, there already -is- the option to take green skin for a Darkspear for a Revantusk look, and the Revantusk were part of the Amani, just one that decided to stay allied with the Horde. The remnants of the Amani are broadly speaking enemies of the Horde, even the ones in Dazarâalor are hostile, so it seems like they would not be interested in joining the Horde, especially as this means they would have to ally with the Blood Elves, in effect formally agreeing to recognise the Sinâdorei territory of Quelâthalas.
I canât see them going for that.
Many of the Amani models also have a different model, not just skin colour also, so its âAllied Raceâ territory again, plus what do they really bring to the Horde?
Now this is a curious one, we all know that Ion said the eye customisations were for NPCâs, however Ion is not really a lore guy, I mean he even said âBlood Elves with Blue Eyes make no senseâ despite not only making lore sense, but actually being in-game already since Wrath.
If Ion is right, then it is really weird that they have brought out so many options for NPCâs of a race that are not playable, and it also means that of the core races, the Blood Elves are the only ones who have not had all their customisation options displayed yet. âMore than 40 options including eye colourâ Blizz said, so if the Wowhead information is not for Blood Elves, thenâŚwhen do we see those eye colour options they are getting?
Iâm not sure Ion was correct in what he said, unless the Blizzard statement was wrong, and instead they showcased 30 sets of eyes including heterochromia, blind eyes and such just for NPCâs
That just doesnât sound likely?
Blood and High Elves are exactly the same species, the only difference is that of diet, Blood Elves learned the technique of draining mana from living creatures, High Elves refused to partake of such a practice (Mana Vegans!) and were Exiled. You could, like Lanesh the Steelweaver, be a Thalassian elf who was not in Quelâthalas in the time the crystals were there (so TBC basically) and have Blue eyes, yet call yourself a Blood Elf. Equally the Allerian Expedition in Outlands canonically have fel green eyes, despite being staunchly Alliance and High Elves. One of the quest givers actually directly references that fact.
Eye colour is just what happens to Elves when exposed to certain magics it seems.
It is an unnatural phenomena however, as they do have perfectly normal irises without the glow, we know from âBlood of the Highborneâ that Lorâthemarâs natural eye colour is brown, and Liadrinâs a more hazel colour.
Iâm not massively invested in that, Iâd probably keep the green eyes on my characters anyway, but I find it highly unlikely that Blizzard created such variety of customisation just for their NPCâs when they have never done so before.
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Yellow eyes are canon for every other belf that feels deep connection with the Sunwell that has been purified, therefore Light.
That covers not only belfs, but helfs all around Azeroth
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It was pretty much implied that it was reserved for Priests and Paladins by Blizzard devs specifying that we would see them added to Blood Elf Priest and Paladins.
They just did not want to lock the options for specific classes, so they released it for the Blood Elf race overall.
I donât really care if the Priest or Paladin is a Blood Elf or High Elf, but it is reserved for Priests and Paladins.
Except itâs not because my warlock can use gold eyes too.
It was implied that gold eyes were reserved for those that, as Aeilmar said, felt a deep connection to the Sunwell/Light, but that doesnât equate to priest or paladin specifically.
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No, it is implied to be reserved for Priests and Paladins. I know the option is available for all Blood Elf characters regardless of class, but in the same interview it was specifically mentioned that we would mainly see it on Priest and Paladin NPCs, and the reason it was readily available on all Blood Elf - class combos is because they wouldnât lock a customization option like that for a specific class.
Pretty much implying that the golden eyes are mainly if not only Priests and Paladins.
Mainly = / = all, it doesnât imply that it is reserved for priests or paladins. It simply states those are the two classes we should expect to see it on because they actively wield the light instead of being passively exposed to the Sunwellâs energies, but it does not state they are the only ones. Magisters, commoners, anyone with a deep connection to the Sunwell, those are the ones youâd be able to see golden eyes on.
The exception, in my opinion, would be the Farstriders and Highvale elves from QuelâDanil, whom were respectively largely unaffected by the magical addiction suffered by the high / blood elves after Sunwellâs destruction in the case of the Farstriders. And while affected by the addiction, the Highvale managed to overcome it to the point of where they have since rejected magic in its entirety.
I vaguelly remember a tweet stating that priests and âpaladinsâ would likely get them first/sooner than others, but eventually, over the course of time, everyone would get them.
Listening to the interview again, yeah that is pretty much what they say.
Listening to the interview again also made confirmed to me, that they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
âThe quest happened back in the Sunwell Plateu when Anveena sacrificed herself to cleanse the Sunwellâ
I am pretty sure it was the heart of Mâuru which cleansed the Sunwell, Anveena was just the Sunwellâs remaining arcane energies returning to the Sunwell.
In the interview they heavily imply that Anveena brought the light to the Sunwell.
Blizzard is already forgetting that the Sunwell is fount of Arcane and Light.
Bah!
Thatâs just her white, blonde, blue-eyed human potential.
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Human potential is best potential.
Basically what the interview stated is that all Blood Elves should actually be having golden eyes by now, that is what they state in the interview: â⌠because they storyline says that is where they should be now.â
But if you play a blood elf warlock and want to keep your green eyes because it feels right, then you do you.
The blizz devs who was interviewed seemed to be very confused about the whole Plateau ordeal though, so whether everything has been retconned⌠again again again again⌠or not, remains to be seen I guess.
They donât. Look in Dalaran, Stormwind and Allerian Stronghold or wherever else High elves are. Their eyes do not glow.
The exception is inside the Telogorus Rift where they use death knight yes for whatever reason.
We may be talking over each other.
The colour of their eyes is the glow. Blood and High Elves have normal, human eyes naturally, as is seen in the latest non in game artforms related to High Elves. The blue and green you see in High and Blood Elves are a glow.
The high elves in game do not have an eye glow. At least the females donât. Go and look.
Ugh, investigative work in game is a pain with all the loading screens.
The hue is there, it has a slight purplish to it though due to the white behind as opposed to the High Elven men who have a more obvious blue.
The female pupils are significantly larger than the male ones, which gives the illusion of a lack of âglowâ I imagine.¨
You can see about the same on the Blood Elf female model, compared to the male the green is very much dimmed.
It is likely a result of the size of eyes.