Trying out Arcane for first time

Hi there.

I’ve always been a fire mage and frost mage for many expansions, and never actually been arcane so thought I’d try it out in DF.

I’m struggling with the rotation, it looks far too complex, probably because most spells are so new to me but the rotation apparently has different phases n what not. Just not sure exactly what to do. Been trying it on a dummy but can’t seem to get to grips with it.

Any help would be appreciated, I’ve tried websites but not helping too much. :slight_smile:

Try the mage discord: Alter Time.
Or try the guide from Mage-hub(.com) that is the most friendly guide because off it’s layout.

I ve been there. Im far from being good at it yet. But i managed to understand what does what ( that took weeks !!! ) and how to use abilities.
Just keep tryin and practicing and u ll improve ! It ll take time. And u ll mess up a lot. U must accept that.

The most simple way to practice is raid finder > normal > heroic raid imo. Log urself.

If u are lucky with procs, and u can pump missiles and arcane blast standing in ur rune in burst phase … pffft. I really encourage you not to give up however hard it seems like.

Get the trinkets ! the haste one or mastery one.
I also like to watch videos from the past, Gingi played arcane mage at world first, and he has some heroic videos uploaded as well.

Also , dont expect u ll get into it quickly. It ll take time. Weeks, maybe 2 - 3 or more. Be patient ! Doesnt matter how badly u mess up, keep in mind u re practicing one of the best performing spec wich is beautyful if its played well! It take effort to get there <3

Happy practicing !

Check phosphoros videos might be helpful mate

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Ok so basically.

On pull use 2 arcane blast, arcane orb, spam missiles until 20 stacks of harmony, use radiant spark, 3 times blast, use arcane surge, use arcane barrage, use touch of the magi immediately after your barrage, it’s off gcd, and you really wanna get your first barrage inside the touch window, use any unused clairvoyance procs of arcane missiles, use barrage when you reach 20 before the touch window ends, your goal should be to have 2 barrage per touch of the magi.

Does that seem complex? What if i told you this is not actually correct and i am missing 2 very important steps?

Yep this is not even the final form, you have to use nether tempest before you use the first barrage, so basically nether tempest, barrage, immediately use touch of the magi to fit the 2 barrages inside your touch of the magi, and you are supposed to use rune of power on pre pull.

Does that seem complex enough? What if i told you… This isn’t everything, in st you also have to remember evocation.

Yea arcane is garbage, i don’t recommend it, can it be strong? Sure. Is it fun? It stopped being fun when you had to press your 3rd setup ability.

By the way, if you mess up any of these steps, your damage is gonna suffer a lot. And it must be done perfectly or the setup just won’t work as well, so there is almost no margin of error.

Just play fire or frost. That is what i would recommend to be completely blunt.

Arcane has the same problems that fire has, which means the tank has to pull around your cds, otherwise you do bad damage, but it’s also far more complicated to play.

Personally i think that people who play this spec say they like it because at this point they invested so much time into trying to even learn the rotation, that saying they don’t like it would be like saying that they wasted all this time on a spec that isn’t even fun to play. There is a point where you just go too far, and with arcane this is the case.

There are other much more fun complex specs to play that are far more intuitive, and less punishing on mistakes, like outlaw rogue.

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100000% agree

What u ll find useful >> there is a macro that can help u

#showtooltip Touch of the Magi
/castsequence reset=10 Arcane Barrage, Touch of the Magi

another , that gives u a LOT of mobility ( talent ice floes )
#showtooltip Shifting Power
/castsequence [known:Ice Floes]reset=10 Ice Floes, Shifting Power, Shifting Power;reset=10 Shifting Power

U can macro ice floes on other spells. Arcane surge can be one, or whatever u like.

Things are not " that " complicated anyway. But need to understand a couple of things first.

-Radiant spark: it does some dmg and it empowers 4 direct spells. That s why u cast 3x arcane blast and 1 arcane surge if it s available. Or whatever serves u the best. Do this on rune of power obv.

-Touch of magi is like a ballon. U want to deal as much damage as possible while it lasts. Especilly if u used the * spark + surge * setup previously :o) This is where things get exciting !!

There are other small details. But to start with, these two spells are the most important to understand , imo. Anyway, LEARN your spells and talents. U want to know and understand everything !

Glowie shared nice information here.

Hardest part for me was to watch all the cd’ s . For first that seemed so difficult to me, i was not sure if i ll ever manage. Many times i just stood at the fight unable to decide what to do with what. At that point i was not even sure if mage is for me anymore.
To improve u need to go , and try it several times, mess up several times, be the bad player several times. Do this only if u feel passion for it otherwise u ll be just a hater.

Good luck !

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