No.
They do have a service option with extra support where you can sign up for things like region-wide notoifications for specific prices, but not for the normal addon.
No.
They do have a service option with extra support where you can sign up for things like region-wide notoifications for specific prices, but not for the normal addon.
Pretty sure in real life many countries have laws against market manipulation like this though. Well you can still do it on WoW since it has no real life consequences.
Honestly, I would MUCH prefer right now to see the people who put masses of anything and everything, mostly rubbish, up for sale at ridiculous prices.
There are sellers on my server who post in this way and every item they post is buyout only at 499,999g each.
Can someone please explain to me why they do this and is there some underlying secret I am not aware of? Or is it just in the hope that some unsuspecting buyer clicks the wrong button?
Sure. At the same time ban all the other addons that âcheatâ the game. DBM for a start, WA another, anything that alters the human interface, those that help gathering etc. etc, I could go on.
IMO leave it alone or join the club, like you did with all the afforementioned addons.
They do this because when people buy in bulk, they may âoverflowâ into the expensive stack and accidentally purchase those items too. I wanted to whisper one of these sellers once, but every letter of his name had a different accent. Itâs a scummy tactic and relies on people not concentrating & making an error.
Arenât these (WA/DBM) addons using logic to send alerts to the user? They also automatically print messages in /say - the content of which is determined by the addon, and the trigger for sending the messages is based upon events in the fight.
In my view, these addons are making decisions and automating batches of actions. How else could you send warnings & countdowns into /say in response to events without the use of the addon? Like TSM, this is an automation of thinking.
Regardless - I think my original point still stands in response to the âfairnessâ argument. Addons provide an often-mandatory edge in many areas of the game. If I wanted to start mythic raiding, Iâm sure I would be forced into downloading certain addons.
Yes, all those addons should be removed that AUTOMATICALLY:
Addons should be removed from this âgameâ and standard UI improved. Their new MOBA target graphics they forcefully introduced in Legion are still horrible to look at.
DBM doesnât move you into the correct positions and execute your rotation better and faster than any human could, all while you just scroll your mouse wheel up and down.
If you think that DBM or even WA do anything within a country mile of what TSM does, then you donât know TSM.
I remember when Blizz disabled Exorsus Raid Tools (now Method Raid Tools) from being able to plan where people stood to soak mechanics.
Yet TSM flies under the radar. And itâs not for lack of complaints.
Of course it allows you to post items faster and at a more sensible price - why else would somebody use an auction house addon? The very purpose for their existence is to make areas of our gameplay more efficient, excluding any purely cosmetic addons.
But why is this a bad thing? Most people only post a few items here and there - the need for such an addon is not necessary.
For crafters, the ability to quickly post is ESSENTIAL in many markets, otherwise it simply would not be worth the time spent posting. Prices would be more expensive, and many items simply would not appear on the auction house due to their very low sell rates. This would hurt the average player.
I feel the issue most hurting the average player is not TSM per se - it is the current ability to cancel items unthrottled (up to a limit). This allows degenerates to sit at the auction house on a second account - often all day - and cancel & repost their auctions every 5 minutes. This activity should be stopped - but it has nothing to do with TSM. Cancel scanning is the illness, TSM is the symptom.
I know exactly what TSM does, I have used it extensively in the past, I have no use for it now.
DBM gives players a massive advantage in all aspects of raiding.
It can automatically mark players who need to pair together, I.e. in Castle Nathriaâs Council fight. It can automatically generate /say macros in response to events in a fight, and it can countdown using /say. All of these things are automating a large bunch of actions - putting someone without these addons, at a massive disadvantage.
Even Details should be banned, because players should be MANUALLY reading the combat log and make decisions based on that.
Having computer draw all those graphs real time is just totally unfair. One should be MANUALLY entering the data from the logs into excel and then drawing some graphs there!
AH bots use it with the massive amount of items they post to sell. do you honestly believe a normal person could check what items he has been undercut in a matter of seconds cancel all them and re-post them? You speak about dbm yes it might be some help but thats it. it just helps in real time when it happens. it doesnât âcompressâ the time you do or your actions like TSM does. you canât kill any boss faster. but TSM does exactly that. it cut the time to a minimum amount AND IT AFFECTS THE ENTIRE SERVER AND THE ECONOMY.
AND IT AFFECTS THE ENTIRE SERVER AND THE ECONOMY.
Yes, it supplies Joe the Average Casual with AFFORDABLE goods.
You canât even begin to imagine the scale of market manipulation that would happen if they banned all AH addons and all legal means to gather item price data.
There is not more supply though with the availability of TSM. It more looks to me TSM is preventing Joe the Average to sell his goods, since TSM is instant canceling and reposting it to become 1st in line.
Yes, it supplies Joe the Average Casual with AFFORDABLE goods.
What are u talking about??? Iâm not saying about multiboxing⊠But the fact that you connect multiboxing with TSM says a lot⊠Because as u know multiboxing IS against Tos. What WOULD happen without them is another story
Agreed. TSM delendum est. Hereâs something I just posted, giving my reasons.
Just ban or break TSM, and any similar addon function.
Iâve used TSM during my Goblin phase. You canât do without it, because all the other Goblins are using it too, and it is far too powerful an advantage. So yes, I know itâs wonderful for Goblins. The problem is that it is TOO wonderful.
And it leads to these automated cancel-relist behaviours that do nothing useful for the market, but make the process of selling vastly more of a grind.
Banning TSM and other AH addons would not stop the post-cancel-relist behaviour. Nothing stops you from posting a stack of 200 [reagent(s)] without addons, waiting for it to get undercut, post another stack of 200 [reagent(s)], continue until you run out of said item in your inventory, cancel all of those [reagent(s)], and then repeat the process.
A solution to your issue would be putting a higher deduction fee on cancelled auctions, or having a cancel cooldown. Banning and/or breaking said AH addons would not help you by a longshot, since only a handful of dedicated AH players would be enough to keep the degenerate post-cancel-relist cycle going.
If you want a principled reason, it is because PLAYING THE AH IS NOT LIKE PLAYING THE GAME.
Hard disagree, the economy is part of the game, therefore playing the AH is playing the game.
There is not more supply though with the availability of TSM. It more looks to me TSM is preventing Joe the Average to sell his goods.
Unless you count transmog and the likes. Banning AH addons would severely diminish the supply of cosmetic items on the auction house, due to the quantity of items in the game and the said items not being allowed to stack in your inventory. Posting +3000 seperate items on the auction house is made bearable by putting in your desired sell value and post duration in the addon, doing a post scan, and then scroll wheeling away for each auction listed.
Bots are good too, else people would want 200 gold per 1 single herb, imagine needing to pay 20k for a single flask + 20k for a armor kit, 10k for pots for 1 single raid night, thatâs robbing.
Oh god, with that type of money i could get rich like the legion days