Whereas during the RpPvP Campaign on Argent Dawn set as the events at Teldrassil and Undercity took place, my Dragonhawk Riders risked life and limb to airlift as many Kaldorei children to safety as we could, plus a kitten, Starflower. Spiralling wildly downwards due to the weight of carrying so many people, we finally landed at the Alliance players encampment, dropped off the children, our thanks? They started shooting at us, so we had to fly fast as we could back to the Horde encampments, where we immediately came under suspicion of treachery, for rescuing Alliance children from burning to death. Eesh, you canât win. How is a Good Elf meant to fight a Good WarâŠ
That picture Steala linked is some pretty sweet art though, I love how you could look at the picture, not even know the story behind it, but could tell that it was some dread exodus from a threat so bad that the entire populace is in flight. Which is quite the artistic talent, given that because of the scale, you canât make out individual facesâŠ
My character was not around at Teldrassil during the events of the WoT, and instead âoff-worldâ dealing with organisational affairs. Needless to say, she and her superiors had quite a few words to say about priorities (and failure to pass information along) when she got back.
Blood elves haveâŠa long suspicious history, no offense. And it wasnât âA Good Warâ at all. The name is ironic, perhaps unintentionally so.
Oh definitely not, I was being Ironic, there is absolutely nothing âGoodâ about it. I suspect the title of the story itself was an exercise in irony, as âA Good Warâ was the title of a book by a writer called Patrick Bishop about the Air War during WWII, and âThe Good Warâ was an oral history (Which apparently inspired the book -not the film- World War Z. If youâve not read the book, do yourself a favour and snap up a copy, it is amazing),
The title purely is because of the pretty lies people tell themselves when they have to go out and kill other people, hence we have such nonsenses as âA Good Warâ and âIllegal Warâ, without realising that War as a situation transcends âGoodâ or for that matter normal âLegalityâ and has its own unique rules.
I think thatâs what the author was trying to invoke when they wrote the Warcraft story âA Good Warâ, That sense of ridiculous irony as to how you could call something like that âGoodâ.
You got what you want in the form and shape of Anduin Wrynn compared to Varian. Now get off the Night Elves back and go drool over your peace-loving âHigh-Kingâ, while other races get their stuff together and actually defend the Alliance from the savage Horde, instead of crying over how they should be âsaving the Horde from itselfâ and âpeace is the noblest aspirationâ. The Horde has shown time and time again that theyâre incapable of peace, with anything or anyone.
FIgured i throw a look at this thread and got overwhelmed by cringy sensations of thisâŠugh⊠baby creation and effects of magical power on it in a motherâs wombâŠthe hell am i even reading this, reduces my mental capacity to that of a primitive wild animal :o
Ah, we call that biology, when you go to secondary school they will teach you about it, its where babies come from basically, and the conditions in the womb have a direct effect on that., which is probably why the topic went that way, given that it wasâŠdirectly about thatâŠ
It did?
My wordâŠso not just a wild animal, but a primitive wild animal? So, how Primitive are we going? Sabre tooth Tiger? Megatherium? Mammoths?
I had no idea such primitive wild animals had the ability to use the Internet. I guess everything Paeleontology taught us was wrongâŠ
Iâm now picturing one of the Zandalari Druid forms doing just that âI Must destroy because I am a big unit for a Lizard, and Raaargh, but first I must comment on Facebook, or some forum or other, if only I had the manual dexterity to do so ! Raaaargh!â
My point was that directly and openly talking about is very animalistic, very primitive, like animals in the wild. Similar to how people wouldnât feel comfortable with sex in public, because itâs natural(lol)
As human beings, while biologically animals, we should be better, more intelligent than talking about banging and making babies. Such primitive mentality reduces my cognitive functions to that of a cave man countless millennia ago, at best.
Letâs have night elves pair up and bang to make babies, becauseneed more night elvesâŠis the impression i get from the OP, the idea makes me chuckle.
Suffice to say, reading this thread has beenâŠcringe-worthy.
Well no, itâŠby definition, does not, I mean it does the oppositeâŠI mean being able to talk about biological functions and how our physiognomy works is actually part of a developed intellect. It isnât Primitive at all, it is the exact opposite. As human beings, we -are higher in intellect than animals- which means we -are- able to discuss reproduction in such sensible terms without getting nervous about it. Ironically you are entirely incorrect, a âCave Manâ assuming you refer to one of the previous iterations of âhumanityâ, wouldnât have had the mental vocabulary to understand reproduction. So no, your cognitive functions would have to have gone way beyond that, youâre going to âThe Hot Orange Wobbly Thing Hurts when I stick my Hand in itâ kind of levels, in fact you would have to have devolved below animal level intelligence, in fact evenâŠinsects get that basic ideaâŠI donât know how far you would have to devolve, to be honestâŠBut it would be a -long- wayâŠ
We are weaker, slower, smaller and less resilient than many Animals and still on top of the foodchain, i think thats a pretty good indicator for overall intelligence. Unfortunately this intelligence is very short sighted, as seen in the climate debate for example.
We generally regard intellect based on sentience and sapience, and the ability to express complex concepts through communication, verbal and visual
Now Sentience is something possessed by just about every creature on the planet, So that on its own is not a sign of Intellect, to our Western understanding Sentience merely means âthe ability to feel sensationâ, so just about every animal has that, however without Sentience, it is questionable that an entity could truly be âIntelligentâ as we consider it, as a whole load of sensory information would be denied to it. This is especially part of the theoretical discussions as to Artificial Intelligences. They would lack a key aspect of what makes a being Intelligent, though it could have a vast Intellect. People tend to think of AIâs in terms of Skynet from Terminator, or HAL from 2001, but those arenât accurate, not really. If an entity canât âfeelâ (Both in the physical sense and the emotional one) then theyâre not suddenly going to go on a rampage against the squishy fleshy things that made them⊠Why would they? Theyâre not going to feel wounded pride, or anger, or like a slave, or anything. They wouldnât fit our concept of -Intelligence-, but they -would- be creatures of raw Intellect.
Sapience on the other hand, is much more in line with what we classically regard as Intelligence, it is what allows us objective thinking and reasoning and problem solving, now an animal cannot think Objectively. I mean they just donât. It isnât part of their mental toolkit, because they just donât need it. They canât even Reason, because again, they have no frame of reference to work with, and also it is just something not necessary for their existence. They -Can- Problem solve, as various scientific tests have shown, even rodents can problem solve, so they have one of the qualities of Sapience, but not all. I mean a cat is not going to listen to a debate objectively and make an informed decision, it will do what -it- wants to.
A newborn child is not even Sapient, we are born with an intellect that is actually inferior to many animals. A Cat will generally recognise itself in the mirror and not think there is another cat there, a newborn baby will not recognise itself in the mirror, it cannot make objective decisions, and as any parent will likely tell you, they certainly cannot reason! Sapience is something we acquire as we age.
Very true, that Intelligence is what has allowed us to attain that position, that and opposable thumbs, which allow us the manual dexterity to go with our mental dexterity. However, weâre not as weak in comparison to animals as you would imagine. I mean we are stronger than in excess of 90% of the worlds species (I canât remember the exact figure) We evolved using Predation Hunting , We were genuinely scary. Predation Hunting is the Terminator âIt will come after you, and it will not stop, ever, until you are deadâ Thatâs us. Thatâs how our ancestors hunted. They didnât surround and hurl spears at a mastodon till it died, thatâs madness, theyâd be trampled in a heartbeat. They would stab that mammoth, then back away, the mammoth would start bleeding out, and run from the painful little things. (Same as I do from wasps, but I digress) but it would still be bleeding out⊠The Human hunting party, or Hominid, as weâre going back a bit here, would then patiently walk along, following the blood trail, the poor prey animal becoming weaker and weaker, losing more and more blood, and yet still that human pack was following them, at a slow and steady pace. They donât need to run, or be fast, they will just keep following until eventually the animal collapses from fatigue and blood loss and they move in and kill it.
Doesnât that sound scary? Yeah, thatâs our ancestorsâŠ
Weâre pretty resilient too, weâre supremely adaptable, and not only adaptable, but capable of shaping our environment to suit our needs (Sadly not always for the better), our bodies do actually regenerate, not always perfectly, but better than many animals, We can conceive of harsh environments, prepare, and so therefore are resilient to extremes of climate to a degree.
We also have one ability that people often forget, and its a surreal one, and I donât even think it is a âplannedâ part of our skillset butâŠ
Well, we have a poisonous bite. Youâd rather be bitten by a dog, than by a human. Because of the Bacteria that have formed a symbiotic relationship with us, the Human bite is -incredibly- dangerous, to all animals, including ourselves. Alright, Iâm using the wrong word there, its not Poisonous, we donât have Venom, but a Human bite will cause infection and can eventually cause death. Bizarre right?
Sad but very, very true, we are entering some fairly bleak times, when our Intelligence is scorned, we do not want to listen to âexpertsâ and start acting purely on what suits us at the moment⊠That is tossing away one of our intellectual birthrights, and is a truly sad thing to see, especially when world leaders express such thoughtsâŠ
Such primitive mentality reduces my cognitive functions to that of a cave man countless millennia ago, at best.