I’m solo player doing LFR since ~January. I have 13 alts (6 tanks, 4 dps, healers) and all I do is raiding. I’m not interested in anything else because its boring and I’m not interested in joining guilds because I cannot guarantee that I will be available because of RL. I am not happy with raiding experience I’m having:
Vexie bloody entrance; no, its not funny;
from my experience, I get 1 (one) item per 2 full clears (2 weeks), two items per month; some people winning 2 rolls quite often, once he won 3 of 5; this is broken;
walk of death between bosses are actually harder than bosses;
robo-wolf unpredictable run-through applies slow and stacking bleed DoT on whole group; if you move away, you cant cast or heal;
multiple, overlapping, uninterruptable, pulsing AoE, that covers whole screen; either stand in it and hope healers will do well, or move around and dont do dps; healers need to move also, but cant heal while moving;
too many too strong trash, 1-shot all cloth-wearing characters;
road kill between Stix and Sprocket;
bugged platform in front of Galliwyx, so many people just fall to lava through this platform; why it exists, what was the thought process?
I’ve seen only 1 group since around January that were organized enough not to repeatedly die and wipe, it was such a plasure to tank for them;
tanks dont do proper mechanics and swap ~50% of the time;
“skips” are traps designed to make players pull twice or more than it would be if we actually just kill our way through, takes longer time too;
too many patrolling trash always hitting the back of a group = unnecessary death;
tanks dont wait for stragglers, those remain outside of boss room and fight, getting no loot, but boss kill is registered as completed;
50% of boss reset fail = wipe; learn to do it properly or dont do it al all;
trash attacks ignore walls, they dont folow tank that has their aggro, they teleport to group when boss fight in ongoing;
I refuse to participate in this chaotic bloodshed.
I will monitor social media and will try again only, only after this mess is fixed.
I demand no less than 1 LFR itemOF MY CHOOSING per 1 full clear, no less.
I refuse to play rigged RNG.
Undermine in LFR is way, way too much stressful with no guaranteed result for my time, money, and efforts.
Overall, this is terrible. I think someone in Microsoft/Activision decided to ‘make WoW great again’ turning it in survival genre + you cant control big part of it, but it seems they lost something very important in the process. Like, a customer.
Only do LFR on resett day, when you’ll be carried by the big boys farming valor & mogs - if at all, it only drops Veteran gear, which is worse than easy delve loot, so why waste time in there?
Neither of these really works any more. It gives low grade crests and winning rolls feel few and far between.
I used to practically carry LFR in Shadowlands, take a tank or healer in endgame gear, dominate the heal meter or just refuse to die and finish the boss with 5 other overgeared people left standing. And that was good for everyone, because personal loot would pretty much assure an item per week per character, and the people getting carried weren’t wiping 3x to build up Determination.
Now I just can’t be bothered because it’s 2 hours for probably no reward at all. Group loot in LFR is a terrible system and needs rolling back.
I prefer raid over delves because I kinda like teamwork and still have a bit of social left in me.
I find it strange that it was easier to combat OLD GODS compared to little green creatures who developed from animal state being exposed to ‘strange rocks’ radiation.
idk how people have problems in LFR to begin with its so watered down content that I can’t even imagine most of these problems to begin with.
LFR is borderline easy to a point I wonder why it even drops raid loot. The hard part about LFR is getting casuals to take their finger out and do tactics or play the game long enough for boss to die
When I said “social” I meant real humans in contrast to CPU-controlled characters, yes we sometimes talk in LFR, even joking, very rare but at least I know there are living humans.
“Watered down” is diplomatic… most of the Boss skills are just graphical effects i n LFR that don´t actually hurt, and Binary /pass fail mechanics generally get nerfed to the point that thex can´t be failed even if someone is actively trolling… A good example being teh black pools on Fyrakk (amirdrassil) not igniting teh roots (or rather teh AE doesn´t even leave the pools in LFR), or on ansurek the “auto jump” mechanic…
And yet grooups manage to wipe on Vexie and teh Geargrinders… because if absolutely nobody plays mechanics at all, there´s no reason to reward people with loot.
I personally find it good that It´s now possible to wipe in LFR again if people just ignore everything and tunnel the boss… We´ve had 10+ years of this constant faceroll degeneracy masquerading as “gaming”, and all it´s led to is LRF players taking themselves and teh game more seriously than RWF raiders and acting like someone else getting bracers for mog is the end of the world…
I can only hope that the shift in philosophy is permanent.
As far as teh OP goes, 90% of the issue you´re mentioned are the exclusive result of tanks rshing forward like someone jammed an exploding pineapple in their Bum and waving nicely to every mob they asee buit not actually hitting /tanking any of tehm… that said it doesn´t help that most DDS are complete morons that immediately start blasting as soon as they see a nameplate instead of maybe opening their eyes instead and seeing what´s going on around them and then continuing to run behind teh tank until he stands still… Doesn´t help that even the most incapable tank is effectively unkillable during the trash, either…
YOu don´t like RNG loot, ok, that´s a valid point, but all of hte other problems go asay as soon as oyyou get out of LFR and playing actual raids instead of acting like touristmode is the be-all end-all of WoW raiding. Hell, most players I know refer to LFR as normalmode-light with 24 affixes, and not for no reason
What makes you think I “asked” for RNG? Dont be ridiculos.
The Vault of Disappointment must be re-imagined so it grants me right to choose any item from any boss if I clear whole raid.
Ow really? Are u really complaining about LFR Dmg?
This one owkey, if there is one aspect where blizzard improved on its there visuals of mechanics to avoid tbh. If u say there is too much and u cant see them u are either… or blind.
Liberation of Undermine is one of the best raids I have played coz it is completetly different from all raids. Also I mean it is coolest raid Blizzard have done. It is very new raid design according to me!
There is big issue, when you do trash and you never out of combat. There is always one mob makes you in combat lol.
It takes effort to die in LFR boss fights tbh besides easy to deal with one shot mechanics… like dopes running off with the big swirling circle on them on their own when they should stack [something we’ve had since Cata].
LFR drops Veteran equipment. Delves drop Champion and Hero. World Bosses drop Champion. World Special Assignment caches drop Veteran.
I don’t think anything in LFR can be called “raid loot” at this point. Hell, even Normal Raiding is starting to feel like it doesn’t drop “raid loot”. At the absolute extreme maybe an “S-tier” Veteran trinket according to online guides can be of equal performance boost to a D-tier Hero trinket.
This has little to do with GL vs PL; PL just did the rolling off screen - it’s due to a general reduction of loot dropping. GL increases the chance to get loot, because some ppl will roll pass or are unable to roll at all.
Still does for me, though the general loot reduction sure is noticeable.
Yeah, that’s a problem. LFR loot as gotten worse and worse over the past expansions, while they increased difficulty at the same time, both making less people run it. Usually LFR queue tines were ok during the current patch, now they are ridiculous except on resett day. At his point, they should let us run LFR with NPCs, because ppl joining the content a bit late won’t be able to do LFR anymore (which is supposed to be there mostly for casuals to see the full raid story.)
