Rets still outhealing healers in arena 
Rets still global people
Rets still fully heal them selfs or their team mates
you obviously dont know how to outplay one
out heal and global because you let them?
you know you have to let their burst window expire and not let them get near you
the damage is because of one geared person 25+ versa against someone who doesnt have same gear
also lets see your main because you seem to be a ret hater we got gear gap issue
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When it comes to paladins, the way ive been dealing with them is looking for seraphim. Once i see it, depending on the comp, you have to respect it and respond accordingly. Ive had many matches where my healer/dmg partner just die instantly, and yes those games feelsbad. But it is very predictable. U can see it coming miles away, and pala isnt rly a very mobile class. It has weaknesses
Sure i bite, you seem to have reading issues never wrote that but thank you verry much for your concern, i know perfectly well howto handle ret.
Doesnt make my respons to your statement false anyhow.
They havnt changed much at all if anything, dont take my word for it go watch mes when he globals 3 at the same time in rbgs or any other r1/blizzcon streamer who randomly dies to “nerfed” ret, fully geared vs fully geared players.
Please explain to everyone, because i think im not the only one who would like to know, how do you stay out of melee range an entire arena vs a ret to guarantee that the slot machine doest randomly kill you?
I dont hate ret at all quite the contrary, im a firm believer every spec should be good.
I died a few hours ago to a ~220 ret while i was on ~70% to 0% with my shield wall active, earth shield with resto leggo while im 226 on procced wings none the less.
Sure thats rare but doesnt that seem absurd to you?
My win pct in Epic Battegrounds is around 30%, sometimes have to spent many hours to get 1 win on my rogue and druid.
I have the luxury being horde, so i can merc. Guess what, it doesnt matter at all.
Is it possible you can meet premade in epic bg’s ?. Especially at nightime, it doesnt matter which side im on, the otherside is very coordinated, and my side dont even know what or where Sphere orb is in Ashran, or what RPG’s is in WG etc etc.
I cant expect 70% winrate, 45-50% will do.
This morning all my bgs full blue teams vs full ally geared feels good.
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your issue is not rare at all
ive seen complaints about other specs do same vs resto(sub rogue?)
and im sorry but i do not play high rated arena
we need real pvp tuning so cases like yours should never happen
also wod style pvp gear scaling in pvp
I would swear that it is the reversed O.o
When I play normal bg I usually win more than lose, but when I play epic… I only play epic in premade for this reason.
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I would like the option to ban these bg’s.
Ashran
Wintergrasp
Seething shore
Deepwind gorge
Temple of Kotmogu.
Reason… I hate them. And i get them always.
I rarely get Wsg.
But blizzard want to give the achivements hunters competition. So I have to que in on specific and loosing out on honor. Ty blizz.
It was before, you could ban 2 bgs 
Getting wsg all morning vs +5 premade fully geared players. All they do is camping GY.
Not sure why Im torturing myself.
Just lost 12 games in a row both epic and random bgs (alliance). Horde is so much more dominent, better geared and focused on winning(prob due to long queus). I gave up going to bgs as Alliance… not worth it, unfun, frustrating
Its funny:
I think queue is just so fine, never have to wait hours, not even a half… usually i can join within 2-3 minutes, but i figured out something about the gear difference…
I see there are comments on both mine & other topic, saying they lose many matches as horde too… so it might be not a problem of alliance.
By the first hand, i was thinking, alliance players have more experience & can go rated, while horde players don’t have enough to roll on rateds so they prefer to farm random bgs to feel enjoyment. (PLEASE READ MORE, i dont think anymore that alliance players have more experience, i just thought it previously, but its not about alliance or horde, both factions have experienced players for sure)
But then i done weekly quest with my main, 223 ilvl and i kept winning 9/10 games…
So at the end of the day i realized, its not about unexperienced players anywhere, it totally seem to me that random bg / random epic bgs want to give bad time to low geared people…
Shortly: When i queue as low gear, i meet +5 220+ ilvl against me
When i queue as high gear, i mostly meet low gear people.
IDK why its like that, but thats what i experienced… so in the name of all players who get rekt by high gear people while they are low gears:
PLEASE add some item level scaling like, let everyone be scaled to 220 ilvl so at least our stats will be similar & have more chance to fight!!
As someone who only plays Alliance i have given up BG’s altogether i have no interest at all playing horde and i have no interest anymore playing with people in BG’s who give up even before gates open.
Also pvp in this expansion plain out sucks i hate burst gameplay its boring and makes playing a new character feel awful.
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You need like 70k honor farmed in random bgs that give you about 350 honor per win to get your gear to 197 at which point you are still a useless one shot target for all the M+ / Rated geared people running in that said random bg one shotting you while “making some rude gestures” at you … Blizzard trully has no CLUE what they are doing .
And i see multiple videos popping up on YT “why is WOW loosing so much of their sunbscribers?” ! Seriously ? Enter a random BG and find out . Level a toon or an alt to 60 and try gearing it … THATS WHY .
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Hello there,
Couldnt agree more, it is indeed frustrating…
Even worse if you play on horde side with a queue time up to 15 min just to run into overgeared temas multiple times in a row…
Waisting most times up to 2 hours in order to get 1 win in BG and 1 win inEBG without having any fun at all playing WoW…
@Blizzard, at least let people now if you are actually planing to make any changes regarding this issue.
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Its was players what wanted to have 4 raid difficulty levels and inflated powercreep not Blizzard.
You can earn 197 itemlvl gear just by doing covenant campain + pvp will get you 200 itemlvl withing few hours of playtime. Today i went from 150itemlvl to 190 itemlvl just by completing campain and few bgs.
You know, this ‘heart’ system in the comments… it seems so good, because you’d think the more hearts a comment has, the more seriously Blizzard will read it.
The fact probably is, though, that it’s all an illusion, and those hearts don’t do anything but give players the illusion that someone is listening to them, when blizzard doesn’t listen to paying customers at all.
Wouldn’t it be nice, though, if it worked like that? The more hearts a comment gets, the more Bilzzard devs would read that comment, and hopefully implement the idea, or at least respond here in the forums with a ‘blue post’.
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