Upcoming guild: the Disciples of March

Is it really bullying to say that it’s a bit strange to try and make the Communist Manifesto a thing in Warcraft to the point the character’s name is a vaguely different phonological pronunciation of Adrian Engels?

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You know, that’s a noble concept but you see I got OCD so I always get drawn back. It’s like a drug and I can’t help it

You might want to reconsider starting a guild then because when there’s excrements to throw you will be a target at the top and if you keep flipflopping your guilds focus in an attempt to dodge the thrown excrement you’ll likely just frustrate and chase off your players.

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Alright. Decisions have been made; I’m making the guild. Any questions? I could tell you all about the guild if you wish so.

Try a layout of information.

Intro, basics, goals, ranking system, rules.

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How can they be the disciples of March when it’s currently April and nearly May?

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The closest thing to your concept we see in lore is the Defias Brotherhood. On paper they were supposed to be champions of Stormwind’s forgotten and downtrodden. I’d recommend having a look: Perhaps your guy’s a former member who’s gone his own way?

I don’t see a problem in taking inspiration from socialism for your RP. Although it’d work better if you avoid transplanting it word-for-word into Azeroth. Have confidence in your own imagination!

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Kyrené is right here. There’s nothing wrong with your character having views that align with very real political ideologies.

For example, Shog’ganosh is an advocate for a decentralised Horde with a diminished hierarchy and class structure that is primarily governed by the popular masses, for the popular masses, in which the Council primarily serve as administrators and figureheads rather than individuals with any significant authority.

He’s not smart enough (yet) to word it like that, he mostly just grunts about “the one and many.” But that doesn’t mean that I don’t draw inspiration from very real socialist and collectivist ideologies when I consider how he feels about the state of the Horde.

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Okay, so here is some background information regarding Alfred March:

Born to a lumberjack father and field nurse mother, Alfred grew up in Westweald, the region now known as Western Plaguelands during the Second War. In his spare time, when he wasn’t at school, he would often visit his parents at their workplace. As years passed on, he noticed how often the foreman at his father’s work and the officer at his mother’s would treat their employees. As “sensitive” as he was, he filed a complaint to king Terenas himself for better working conditions for his parents.

The king of Lordaeron rejected Alfred’s request.

Shortly after, Alfred visited the Capital City to speak directly to the king, but king Terenas refused to let him in… and Alfred’s despise for the royal family and the nobles only grew and began to form an idea: more autonomy for the common man (amongst other things). He began giving out pamphlets regarding those matters but got tracked down by the king’s guard and soon after he became exiled and was banned from entering any of the human kingdoms.

The rest of his fate became unknown but some people in Lordaeron caught a glimpse of his ideals and visions and somehow they live on to this day…

What do you think?

Some people might look askance at your inclusion of Terenas himself in the story, even if it doesn’t break the lore. If you ask me, it’s absolutely in character for Terenas (or any monarch) to dismiss the petitions of some self-important commoner who thinks he has the right to make demands of a king.

As you don’t make any direct references to the ideology that inspires this background, I consider it acceptable, but different people have different standards.

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On that note, historically the only people who have a right to demand a meeting with the monarch are the nobility. It’s one of their inalienable rights — the King has to receive them and hear them out (though if they act on the advice is a different thing entirely).

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RP’ers of Argent Dawn, you have but your chains to lose?

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I’d make the fourth wall references far less obvious.

Yes, I think I have to change his name but that’s pretty much it

I’ll set up a guild called something along the lines of ‘The Third Realm’ and we can be archnemeses IC, trust.

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Your leader could be called Harold Putler or something like that and your ideology could be based on hating and banning anything to do with gnomes. Hail Putler!

looks directly at the camera again

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this might come as a shocker, but wow is not historically accurate. From what I remember, Terenas and (for a while) Arthas were actually pretty good monarchs, who cared for the plight of the common man. Heck, one of Arthas’ best friends growing up was a random farmer from nearby.

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there are so many ways to tear this entire thread apart, and so many ways to offer up constructive criticism, yet it would all be for nothing.

Constructive criticism? That’s what I like to hear. I want more feedback. I’ll try to put on my thinking cap, I promise.

You’ve already received constructive criticism, which you ignored. But I can repeat it for you.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with taking inspiration from real life, but it becomes very obvious when you’re just transplanting ALL the words and only changing a couple of letters. If you want to be taken seriously by the larger community, you need to seriously redraft your entire concept, and write up a proper guild concept set in the actual lore of WoW. Like many have pointed out, the Defias are a good starting point.

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