nah it will be something like - i spend X amount of valor in pieces and now i keep getting them from GV. fix blizz
the answer is likely very simple
they are unemployed living of social suffort - for them wow is their job .
Yeah that too ofc.
only comment i have is that they should be upgradeable to 226 like pvp gear from rated can be, but still insanely good news for sure!!
That would kill raiding.
so wouldnt pvp also kill raiding then? since u can upgrade it to 226?
No becouse most people dont have skill to reach such raiting but many people have enough skill to beat +15 in time.
most people dont have enough skill to clear mythic raid either? u can upgrade the gear to 213 after clearing everything +10 so wouldnt that kill HC raiding?
Why would they clear mythic raiding when they can get same rewards from mythic+?
It will just like PvP honor gear and covenant gear killed off lower mythic+ keys and pretty much everything below 200 itemlvl.
checking ur RIO u have no progress on the raid and have only keyed a +7, so im sorry that i cant take u seriously anymore. u also commented on my post about accountwide essences back in the day and said classic was way harder and better. why are u not playing that now instead?
I do play classic actualy. And you dont need high riot to understand how players behave in different type of desing. If mythic+ would reward mythic raid gear why would players bother with mythic raiding when they can get same gear faster for less effort in mythic+?
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Great idea, but as we have seen before, the implementation is really bad.
Imagine clearing 15s weekly or running a few for the weekly vault, granting you a 226 ilvl item from the vault.
Where would you use your valor points on? That gear only upgrades to ilvl 220.
If you can get a few 12 keys done for your weekly, even those vault choices have an higher ilvl than the upgrades you can purchase with valor points.
Is it nice to upgrade the gear to 220 ilvl you didnt yet loot from the vault?
Sure is, but thats about it.
But at the breakpoints and ilvls given by upgrades, the vault options already outweigh those upgrades.
Yes, it will take a bit longer to get gear, but i dont think you would use valor points that often.
considering it takes a long time to gear with pvp aswell why hasnt that killed raiding already. many raid for progress and not loot. especially when it comes to mythic raiding. ur RIO matters because of the credibility of ur arguments against something that you dont have alot of experience with. For example im not gonna take medical advice from a regular person instead of a nurse or a doctor.
I mean, something with a kettle and stuff.
You cant tell people to not participate in an argument because they ââlack experienceââ according to you.
They can still have a valid opinion about the matter at hand and the discussion going on.
No your rio doesnt matter. You tell me that game designers now have to have high riot to understand how players behave withing certain sytems? No they dont.
Wait wait. In raiding vs pvpis raiding path of least resistance thats why it didnt die. I have alredy told you that pvp is pretty big wall for many players compared to raiding thats why raiding is still very efficient compared to doing arenas.
Mythic+ is not. Mythic+ requares only 5 people, you have less mechanics, its way more flexible than raiding in guild. Mythic+ is easyer to farm gear in specialy with upcoming valor upgerades then spending hours upoin hours in guild and with scheluded raiding.
Do you realize taht reason why mythic+ do not reward mythic raid gear is becouse Blizzard know players would stop raiding if that would be a case? Is not done becouse of lul raiding is superior.
all i said was that u lose ur credibility in the argument when you have not touched m+ or raiding and ur against something that contributes to that
well considering you have to get conquest buy a gear piece, then get a certain rank you can spam BGS to get honor to upgrade it to 226 isnt that much more of a job. in m+ u have to get the item first then get ksm then use valor points to upgrade that certain item. so its easier gearing with pvp compared to m+ since u can upgrade everything with honor after u reach the rank u want. only 2% of all profiles on wowhead have KSM, so i wouldnt say its so easy.
I only quoted you for attacking someone who didnt touch on M+ or raiding in retail.
And you then claim: low rio or no rio so that dictates your credibility.
Where you then try to make a point about pvp gearing etc, where as your arena ratings arent anything special.
Which makes your post hypocritical at best.
And ties in with your final argument of:
And that whole reply you wrote was funny to me.
Telling people in this thread to not contribute about a topic they have an opinion about because according to you, their rio isnt sufficient enough.
But sure, you do you.
New on the wow forums: atleast x rio score required to post!
ive been doing pvp many times in the past, thats not what im focused about now atm. we are talking about a system that revolves entirely around m+ and not pvp. ive never been quite high as an arena player, have only been 1600 CR many times for different reasons. if i was at that rating now i could upgrade gear to 213 so that would somehow imply i wouldnt do HC raid anymore. even though my bis trinkets etc drops from there.
Conquset gear is 200 itemlv and have alredy told you that everything at 200 itemlvl below is absolote becouse of pvp vendors. And yes getting rank to actualy upgrade your gear upto 226 is big wall for most players. Specialy when most people do not like competive ranked pvp in first place.
Mythic+ is way more acessible than high rated pvp or mythic raiding there is no argue with that so it cant reward same rewards. And thats also why it doesnt.
I realy dont get why is such easy concept as Path of Least resitance is so hard to grasp for you. Players will always flock to content what will give them rewards for least amounth of effort and nothing you will say will change it.
Thats why this PvP gear = Mythic+ gear = raid gear will never work. Never. There is way too big of difference in effort you have to put into those type of content.
Damn it gotta destroy your confidence that Iâm a shift manager at my work and still have time to put in effort into the game for rewards instead of begging for them on the forums.