Can u please re add pvp part of vault ? I know you had problem with rng weapons roll. U can easily exclude weapons from vault list and let them only achievable via achievment like now. Its hard to get pvp sockets novadays without vault.
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Vault sockets cannot br applied to PvP gear, regardless.
And how is it hard to get sockets, its literally the easiest its ever been.
5k honor + 3x gems = 1 socket enchant.
You can also buy the 3 gems with honor.
Also every week can earn 1x gem enchant by looting the Unbound Cache that spawns every 3 hours.
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It was better before for casual playing. I dont like grinding honor.
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You are wrong.
It wasnt.
Back then you couldnt cap your vault with heroic dungeons and world quests and delves.
The only issue is that you dont have any info on anything and you blame it on the design instead of getting familiar with it.
If you dont like PvP being active, then this is not the game for you.
Gearing up literally takes 1 day.
Leveling is also a day or two.
Socketing can take a little bit more.
Never in the time of history was any of these so easy, even in Df.
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SO in rated games there is no honor reward?
cause i never saw someone GRINDING a honor
Most players that play pvp have so much honor that it’s not even funny.
It was. Why we cant have both ways ? One for casuals which play 5000honor for great vault (One socket) and second way for griding enjoyers which like grind 15k + honors for socket ?
Look at pvp participation, game is literally dead only r1 players f*p each other on 1600 rating.
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It would be nice if they readded the pvp chest from BfA. I seem to remember that was conquest unlocked and separate from the vault.
Dude you’re making assumptions based on something you dont even understand.
The game has never been so casual friendly in terms of gearing and socketing.
Also you dont need 15k honor for a gem.
A gem costs 5k honor + 3 stones. (6k- 10k gold) OR 12500 honor. And since everyone can affort 10% honor bonus potion thats like roughly 10k honor.
They cost as much as any other enchant you gonna put on.
You can also loot stones from lootboxes in open world pvp every 30 minutes, and if you travel to other zones right after, you gonna loot at least 3 every 30 minutes.
and once a week u can loot Unbound box for a FREE socket enchant.
As for PvP being dead thats due to Premades and balancing issues.
You dont believe me?
Link me 1 person that complains about gems in PvP in the forum or Reddit besides yourself.
If you still wonna “die on this hill” you got deeper problems that being a stuborn victim, dude.
Brother no, when they were tied on vault you only got sockets per week. Now all you have to do is play and you literally gain honor to just buy the sockets right away, dont you see how this is vastly better system to gain sockets immediately in one day than wait weekly caps from vault?
You can even buy the vicious bloodstones from auction with mere 2k each, you need 3x and then 5k honor to have socket. Or you buy them 2.5k each with honor and then 5k honor for socket when you got 3 bloodstones. This is the superior system to vault. Please dont ask vault to be part of PvP again. The game has enough gatekept content and weekly caps as it is. For PvP you only need to play and you can buy your sockets on same day if so wish.
Im not grinding anything, Im playing the game. The honor and conquest is by product of me playing the content I like playing. Its only logical I then gain my gear and things with the resources gained from the content O.o
I still dont see reasonable argument why there couldnt be two ways to get sockets. One from pvp vault second griding 
You didnt say that they could be in both, all you said were that you dont like grinding honor and that you would like sockets in vault again. Obviously I wouldnt be against them giving you sockets from vault on that case.
In any case go que up blitz or shuffle and you gain honor and conq needed to buy the pvp gear and sockets, these are pvp specific sockets meant to be used in the content where they are gained from. You can play random battlegrounds too if thats something you like. Gearing for pvp is really easy now in general, all one needs to do is play and even with bare minimum one is max gear under week.
You’re not a reasonable person then.
It was very good to have vault rewards for pvp. I had always picked up my tier set items from pvp vaults. Also we could get 1x extra item with possibility of leech/avoidance/speed stat was cool. I hope we get our vault rewards back for pvp.
It’s a lot easier to get pvp sockets atm. We used to have less sockets, it’s why grinding honor is taking longer to socket all atm. But if we had vault for pvp, yes, getting socket item over a gear could be a choice, another source of getting sockets.
No. It was an RNG fiesta that created anxiety.
How can it be cool if it didnt function in PvP ?
It shouldnt, because it swayed the economy to the point where you can make gold as a PvP player and not only that you get to have gems 4 to 6 times faster than your PvE friends.
I suggest shaman boy to go play some PvE as an experiment and have his gems only though the Vault and see how much better and fast that will make it.
This sounds like a guy that got gifted brand new Lambo and he still cant understand why the one that gifted him Lambo didnt pick his favoite color and whine about that.
My guy,go and enjoy your new Lambo(gearing system) Q up for PvP and in a few days you will have your favorite paint for the car
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Did I mention remove current system and bring only vault? No. If we had vault, it would be extra loot in current system. You will have less conquest point grind and possibility of getting pvp ilvl tier set for participating pvp each vault.
We dont need extra loot from the vault.
We literally gear in a day.
You can get 50% of your gear with bloody tokens by doing world quests and afking til a drop comes every 30 mins and u can loot up to 3 of those every 30 mins
All of these give honor and conquest and have a chance of giving you a gem too.
Theres a Unbound Spoils that 100% gives 1 enchant for gem socket or a gem if you already looted it this week and thats every 6 hours.
We also get extra weapon which is equivelent of the weekly cap loot for 4 weeks.
You can’t when you have conquest limit. They remove it after weeks.
It affects all. All are affected by the same conquest limit at start. Its no factor when everyone are the same ilvl. He probably means right now you gear in a day.
How many unbound spoils have u looted since start exp ? 