Void elf reasons

Before my dear Blood Elf came to be a Void Elf this guide did help me a lot. Recommend to sit down and give it a good read over.

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Thanks for this one!

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Almost. They’re loyal to Umbric - who is a survivor type

Also they used the notes of Dar’Khan Drathir, one of Quel’Thalas’ most vile traitors, who had sought the power of the void long before selling his people to Arthas.

And from the ever pragmatic Quel’dorei viewpoint: the Orc invasion forced them in to War (Elves are arrogant and all you know) when then Humans collected some age old debt from the High Elves… a War where Ogres, Goblins and Trolls - their age old enemy - were the allies/member of the Horde
Then there was that little corpse fiesta with the Scourge’s undead army that made them endangered species… the human undeads of the Forsaken using gleefully the Blight and such things must be a painfull memory
Not to mention the whole Fel-taint was in a certain point of view the fault of the Orcs and the Horde … before their arrival the Fel was something unheard of on these parts of Azeroth…
So no really reason for your avarge High/Blood elf to do anything with the Horde except paying some lip service to be left alone
Heck, Lor’themar Theron even started negotions to rejoin the alliance… :smirk:

But at the end of the day

For the Alliance!!!
And they deserved it… :eyes:

I think it is a bit like when a Horde DK and an Alliance DK meet outside the sacred halls of Acherus or when Demon Hunters from the opposite faction cross paths
All boil down to personal feelings of the two
It is my headcanon of course, but I think a Void Elf will not attack a Blood Elf only when some Alliance is around to see how loyal they are to the Blue Team, and instead would try to talk… simillary, your avarage Blood Elf have enough blood on his/her perfectly manicured nailed hands (not to mention fel exposure or other shady things they had to do for survival (or power. Or both)) to be judgemental and sooner shoot an Orc in the back, than attack another Elf… after all, they are the no1 endangered species on Azeroth
…and far from prying eyes the members of the two group could/would get along just fine. If nobody saw it, it not happened…

Isn’t it like blood elves want to murder void ones because they are danger to their sunwell? And now that velfs joined Ally they don’t have to play nice anymore. I feel like Horde changed belfs to no longer follow Alliance “values”.
Btw. after all those wars human geting close to most " endarged species ".

High Elves were part of the Alliance.

They got screwed over by certain people.

Some of them (a city worth maybe more) renamed themselves Blood Elves.

Some of these messed with the wrong magic, got exilied from Blood Elf land and went back to the Alliance.

Void elves are just blood elves that are going back to being high elves.

Basically, don’t trust elves.

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No.

I feel that Lor’themar is a very good representation of all Blood Elves in this regard, he does not really want to spill the blood of his own kin, hence exile rather than execution even though executions were quite possible before the exile.

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Its a bit… murky. You see, Magister Umbric’s research was opposed by Quel’Thalas’s Grand Magister, Rommath, who clashed with Umbric and his followers over their research. Rommath eventually succeeded in demanding they be exiled, reasoning that those who treat with the void pose a direct threat to the Sunwell [I think, but its just my theory Rommath’s void-hate is from the whole Kael and BC events; since the idea of blood elves dabbling with the Void is an old one, as High Astromancer Solarian could already turn into a voidwalker in The Burning Crusade. Also Elsaana, the Draenei girl in the temple mentions how blood elves of the Sunfury consume the energies of Outland’s voidwalkers to power their magics. Rommath is triggered by everything that is connected the shame the Sunfury and Kael’s represent)
The strange thing is, it was just a theory and they weren’t Ren’dorei at the time, just scholars, arcanist, and so on researching the Void. Umbric (and his followers), believed the void to be a force that could be harnessed for the protection of Silvermoon and the sin’dorei
Now… the Rogues, Priests and the more or less accepted Warlocks are all shadow/void users. The Shadow Priests are in the deep end of the pool in that matter… yet the Well never reacted them such violently (or no records of it)
When Alleria visited Silvermoon… the Accident happened. But Alleria isn’t a Void Elf! She consumed a Fallen Naaru’s essence that changed her to… something. Actually its logical, the Dark Naaru’s essence inside her reacted to a Naaru’s spark that reignited and infused the Well…
The Ren’dorei became Ren’dorei by a Void Etherial’s ritual that goal was to tarnsform them fully to creatures of the void… but was interrupted.
Now they are similar… but Alleria is NOT a Ren’dorei, they are not the same… it is highly unlikely consuming a fallen Naaru = an interrupted ritual’s efffect.
But since no Void Elf was allowed to visit the Well, we don’t know what would be the reaction… nothing like in the case of other shadow/void users (and Shadow Priests even have a void/shadow form… void bolt, etc so they must have a deeper connection to the void than an avarage void elf…)

In my humble oppinion, the whole exile was becasue Rommath and Umbric had a personal little groudge… the void was a cheap excuse to get rid of a ‘rival’. Of course it my only two copper.

Good question when the Blood Elves became aware the existance of their void-infused kin… since the whole accident happened in the other end of the Great Dark Beyond and they “colonised” Telogrus and allied with the Blue Boys right away…
Yet Talegrus is open to any curious Elf… more like-minded elves began to arrive in Telogrus in response to the recent events called “Silvermoon Scholars and High Elf wayfarers”
Its a bit hard to find any fact about these things… so a Ren’dorei roleplayer forced to use scraps and fill the gaps with some headcanon and hope for the best
But we are lucky… a Void Elf player always can blame the Void… it was the whispers, the Void played tricks with my mind and … im not sure what really happened :eyes:

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I think it’s worth pointing out that blood elves are rather “humane” so to speak. even the wretched - who are insane - were exiled. You only really get sent off to kill them as the player character because they’re actively harassing, murdering and mugging blood elves. Lor’themar too seems to straddle this line, as seen in his short-story, he laments what happened to the high elven exiles and attempted to make amends.

It’s not really explicitly told, and i’m probably reading too much into it. But there does seem to be some underlying tragedy in how the elves keep infighting due to the sake of their own short-term ambitions or for the sake of their own stability.

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Okay but hashtag RommathWasRight. Alleria may not be a traditional void elf but she’s still a font of void energy, just like the void elves are after their reckless transformation. If they’d carried out that ritual in Silvermoon much closer to the Sunwell? Who knows?

And Umbric even started to come around to that when he started delving into Drathir’s research. He admits as such in his journal. But then they still kept going with it. Even after being exiled, even after thinking “wow maybe the exile was justified”, they kept going on regardless.

Don’t forget that all HElves/BElves are connected to the Sunwell. Its voidification would be the complete genocide of the race, regardless of who they’re allied with. Rommath watched its corruption and destruction once, it’s totally reasonable he’d be wary about it happening again.

When your entire species is on the line, caution can be something of a virtue, especially when the magic isn’t, apparently, needed.

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I really like this headcanon. Never thought about it myself, but it makes sense and explains why Rommath cracked down hard on Umbric’s lot specifically despite there being all kinds of other void/shadow users in the blood elf society.

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alleria and her human loving pals dabble in super dangerous magic

belves go ‘woah chill thats wack’ and exile them

they join the alliance and draw contempt from 90 percent of belf society

much of the actual ideas around belf-velf relations is head-canon’y so its best to just pick a stance for ur chars in rp, whether that be “ARGH SUNWELL BETRAYERS” or “Yo just leave us alone voidfreak, i dont want to kill u”

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This is true. But I also think Rommath being wary of “power at all costs for the betterment of us” due to how heavily Kael’s own betrayal hurt him. There’s a lot of similarities between the narrative of Kael’s Expedition and the void elves (it’s why I don’t like it, really). The only difference being that without Alleria’s timely intervention then the void elves would have met the same fate as Kael + co.

I think between safeguarding the Sunwell and his own personal experiences of WC3:TFT->TBC, Rommath is not only fully well justified in his actions. They’re understandable, too.

This is true too, AFAIK we haven’t really seen of a blood elf reaction post-exile to void elves. It’s largely being void elves with:

Dalressa Voidcrest sighs, “I long for a united Silvermoon”. With a wave of their hand Dalressa animates the corpse of a brutasaur to devour the nearest blood elf.

“But this magic is too evil for the Horde”, she sighs again.

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Lor’themar does refer to them as “traitors” in the Battle for Lordaeron scenario, but that’s the only reaction I can recall.

Nathanos Blightcaller yells: Hahaha! Look who joins the fray. Good, I was hoping you’d keep this interesting!
Alleria Windrunner yells: I assure you, Blightcaller, the pleasure is all mine.
Lor’themar Theron yells: The void elves… those traitors must be dealt with!

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Which is fair, but he also called the high elves traitors before trying to recruit atleast one group back.

Afterwards it was basicly all against the Silver Covenant as far as I can tell.

Lor’themar calling anyone a traitor a bit hypocritical if you consider he said that standing next to an undead who every second word yell death to the living or blight it all… and begin talks with King Varian Wrynn to negotiate Quel’Thalas back into the Alliance…
But he is wise enough to make backdoor alliances left and right for Azeroth and for the blood elves :smiley:
I’m sure he only said that, because the pet of the curent undead warchief was there - yeah , totally headcanon, I know :slight_smile:
But yeah… the situation is…
Not the best :eyes:

Let’s not forget he betrayed his sovereign (for good reasons, but he still did betray his King).

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Lor’themar is a very (insert cursed p-word here) person.

I think it’s worth mentioning it was the other way around, Silvermoon had heard very little from Kael post Ghostlands quests. And then he just marches into and attacks Silvermoon for M’uru after guzzling demon blood at the throne of Kil’jaeden. :stuck_out_tongue:

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He’s calling them traitors to Silvermoon, which given that they’re now fighting against Silvermoon…they are.

Backdoor discussions with Varian to protect his people doesn’t really make him a traitor to them. To the Horde, sure, but a leader caring more about their people than the faction at large is usually seen as an admirable trait.

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Really? I always assumed the Scryers informed Silvermoon of what happened (especially since you encounter the Scryers before you really encounter Kael’s forces) and he was like “Nah fam, we don’t do fel sucking over here”.