You just told a Nightborne, one of our allies to “go away.”
I always knew you were a trouble maker Erevien!
You just told a Nightborne, one of our allies to “go away.”
I always knew you were a trouble maker Erevien!
They are our allies. But this particular one here is an alliance collaborater. I am allergic to that.
Likewise I am to Lich Queen fans…do I feel warm at the moment?
This is why I demanded that Umbric and his radicals be exiled. Anyone who treats with the Void is a danger to the Sunwell!
From the Nightborne Recruitment Scenario.
Meaning it was of recent is the hint.
Bites Erevien
Despise you too, drooling mana addict
Not really. There is nothing in that quote to suggest that it was recent. There is nothing to show that Rommath was talking about it very recently or just from his memory.
But anyway the banishment couldn’t have been recent, near enough every interaction between Umbric implies this.
Magister Umbric : " When the mad Arthas devastated our lands, I knew we must harness every power available to ensure our survival.
Prince Kael’thas proposed one way. I sought out another."
There is no way Rommath and Umbric were fighting with each other for upwards of 16 years. It must have been a short time around the Sunwell being reignited which is the only timeframe we can exactly pinpoint we have in regards to when this happened.
Ofc’ this is just speculation really, but the longer it goes on the more unlikely that it would happen.
Edit :
I still find this part odd, did Rommath only care about people using the Void after the Sunwell was restored or has he always been against it?
Can only speculate, but could this depend on whether he was aware that Dark’han Drathir was also tapping into the void before Arthas came and due to the mage turning traitor…? I don’t know, it’s just a thought…
I wasn’t really referring to Dark’han using the Void (but if he did it would probably only be much harder to explain why he allowed the following), I was referring to High Astromancer Solarian.
If Rommath had such dislike to the Void then I fail to see why he wouldn’t have talked or/and try to convince Kael to stop what she was doing as she was also dabbling in the Void to the extent that she basically mutated/transformed into a Void Walker.
Depends on when Rommath returned to Silvermoon.
We don’t have too much information on Astromancer Solarian.
I suppose that is true with what you put, they kinda missed a good opportunity with using Solarian instead of Dark’han (or a long side Dark’han) as their research which could’ve been a really good nod back to TBC. It would also help a lot with Void Elves not feeling like complete *sspull and having some roots back to the early days of WoW.
I agree - we could have also received some additional Sunfury lore. Perhaps have us travel to Tempest Keep.
Hell, the Void Elves could have used Tempest Keep as their home base, rather than a bunch of rocks. Used Solarian’s room.
Hey!
Those rock are our home!
There are many like it, but that one is ours !
I choose to believe their exil is recent for one simple reason: Roleplay. There is no logical reason a character living in Quel’thalas, who may or may not have connections with shadow/void (I’m thinking to the Shadow Priests here, and some warlocks) wouldn’t be aware that this exil happened. I know the current policy is “consistency sucks and we don’t care about that”, but for the sake of not having to retcon suddenly possible years of roleplay, I choose to see it as recent.
What Kael was up to on Outland wasn’t really common knowledge, and even then when the Blood Elves of Silvermoon start going on Pilgrimage to Outland to meet up with the kin there. That’s when the signs of “something isn’t quite right here” start to creep in. Hell as soon as Kael’s forces start to learn what he’s up to they begin to defect - Scryers/Blood Knights. They were (literally) worlds apart and i doubt information travelled fast.
It’s a bit irksome, actually. The guys who handled the storytelling then don’t handle the story telling now. It’s been a 100% turnover rate almost. Did the original writers intend for shadow/astromancy to become linked with the void? And the problem with the current writers going in the direction they’re in is it just makes more questions about prior stuff.
I’d just err on the side of shadow/void always being a taboo, given what we know of it and how other peoples generally react to it.
Rule of Cool Race.
An admition from Blizzard themselves when Asked about Void Elves.
They just Thought it would be cool
That we even got some build up is amazing.
And the Void elves got a better Build up than the Nightborne.
So, let’s just be happy we actually saw the Void elves come into Being.
That’s its own massive issue. Would shadow spec priests even be allowed in Silvermoon anymore with Rommath’s “ban this sick filth” attitude and general shift from Blood to Sun elves?
My question stands; would the addiction to the well still be a thing given how void elves are physically antithetical to its energies and mutated to only be elves anymore in spirit?
Good read, but the void, and void elves by extension do not represent death, if anything the void is just as much against death as the light is. Death means entropy, the void (and to some extent the light) want to enslave or control the sentient races.
OT; i don’t think they’re afflicted with the same magic addiction the Bloodelves have suffered from for ages, but its been replaced by a hunger for power- and the danger is that in their search for power they loose their minds.
TLDR they no longer -need- the sunwell, or any other well of magical power to sustain themselves, but their personality wont change- they will still seek to draw power from various sorces Voidelves - the void.
I think this mindset came about with the Sunwell being partially Light magic, if the Sunwell was pure Arcane then I doubt it would be an issue. The timeline has to have Umbric’s exile taking place post-SWP otherwise I can’t see why Rommath would be so defensive. Ultimately the Sunwell has to be protected at all costs, and the void is a passive threat to it (as we saw). And I don’t think using it would be outright exile, seeing as Umbric got told several times to stop; I imagine other people get the slap on the wrist before the boot.
But this does come at odds with the fact that the Blood Elves still allow Fel magic and Death magic which in itself can also threaten the Sunwell. You’d think at the very minimum that if Rommath wants to defend the Sunwell at all costs he would at the very least try to phase out these different types of magics.
And it was really only Rommath which (for now at least) went against Umbric and tried to convince Lor’themar to get rid of them (which he eventually did). So Lor’themar really didn’t mind that much or at least not to take it seriously.
I don’t think there are many, if any blood elves spewing death magic around; it certainly seems at odds with what we see of their ‘units’ which are largely sorcerers/pyromancers and the like. And i’m not quite convinced that fel will turn the Sunwell into a giant pool of death seeing as - every time we’ve seen the Legion('s cultists) interact with wells of power to taint them it has been by numerous casters at work (e.g SWP) and not by being in sheer proximity*. And Fel was never really used extensively, beyond the Burning Crystals (used to support gravity defying architecture) warlocks are genuinely uncommon – Demons and Fel were never an ‘accepted’ part of society.
*I think this is the fundamental point, however. If a warlock was to go rogue and attempt to tamper with the Well, he’d have to actively interact with it. The wardens around the Sunwell (which looks to be guarded to high hell) will likely intervene.