Void Elves should get Blue eyes in Shadowlands

jokes on u i have 3 blood elves priests and i probably healed u somewhere

Who has bloodelves? Oh wait, not you! xD

Void Elves are more popular than Worgen, Dwarves and Gnomes.

Well blue eyes makes sence for blood elves sinc sunwell is holy/arcane

Well no customisations for allied races and belfs getting +40 customisations so theu are pretty sure getting blue eyes

I’m not against playable High Elves or making a couple races faction neutral when it suits them…

I’m just gonna point out that normal skinned Void Elves is not against the lore and would in no way destroy the identity of Void Elves.

I’ll explain:

  • It begins with Alleria studying the Void under Locus-Walker. In so doing became the first ā€œVoid Elfā€, kind of…
  • Then the rest of the Void Elves, they were originally a group of Blood Elves that dabbled in the Void and were exiled for it. They kept up their studies in their exile and found what they were looking for, the Telogrus Rift, and they went there.
  • Alleria searched for them and found them in the Rift, and they performed a ritual on an item they had found.
  • This was a trap and Nether-Prince Durzaan captured all the Void Elves, and began transforming them into Void creatures. To make them fall completely to the Void.
  • Alleria and the player character kills Nether-Prince Durzaan and in so doing interrupts his transformation ritual before it is completed. The result is that all the Void Elves are now blue.
  • The Void Elves are few in number, a couple dozen at most. And would naturally need to recruit more members to their cause. Which is why you see Blood Elves and High Elves in the Rift.

BUT… These new recruits would not turn into blue Void Elves in-lore.
Alleria is proof that any elf that studies the Void doesn’t become a blue void elf.
That was something Durzaan did and he’s dead.
So why would the new recruits turn blue?

In current lore, they won’t.

And that’s why it makes sense that these 2nd generation Void Elves have normal skin.

ANOTHER BUT… That doesn’t mean they should get blue, green or golden eyes…
In studying the Void they are exposed to it and its energies, and their eyes would change to reflect that. The pale white/blue of the Void Elves eyes would still apply.
The exact same thing that happened with the Blood Elves when their eyes turned green through exposure to fel energies.

That’s why I want normal skinned Void Elves (with the same Void eyes as now).
The hairstyles could remain the same, just change their coloration to normal I guess. And in so doing could remove the voidy bits.

Then you could choose whether your Void Elf would be a 1st generation Void Elf, who was transformed by Durzaan.
Or a 2nd generation Void Elf that came to the Rift to study at a later date.

I have two Void Elves so I would have one 1st gen and one 2nd gen if this was made possible :slight_smile:


As it stands now, we have no explanation on how the Void Elves can sustain their numbers.
Many of them die in combat and they would have a drastic need for recruitment.
But as the lore stands, only the first Void Elves are blue, and that doesn’t explain where all these new blue Void Elves come from.

Heck, on my Orc shaman I’ve probably killed more Void Elves than exist in the first place.

PS: I’m not saying this to get my ā€œHigh-Elfā€ fix on or anything, I like the Void Elves. But I want the lore about them to make sense, and just making every new recruit blue when the lore (as it stands now) say that’s not going to happen makes my lore-geek senses tingle unpleasantly.

PPS: If Alleria had been blue from the moment we met her in Legion, and that was explained as being as a result of her studies it would make sense.
But we know studying the Void in itself doesn’t change you.
Another solution could be to retcon Alleria, but I don’t think they want to do that.

When blood elves did joined the horde they stopped to be high elves and did become something else, just like the former english people which did found USA stopped to be brits and become americans, that’s how I see things.
Besides you have both green and golden eyed elves, you don’t need the one with the blue eyes which were always a lot more prevalent among the alliance elves, like the Silver covenant, and the alliance had them since vanilla.

Alliance has the chance to get playable high elves ( maybe with the Silver covenant elves with Vareesa leading them joining ), just like the Alex Afrasiabi stated on the Blizzcon 2018.

Huge maybe.

As you stated, the manner of their creation are different. Alleria was injected with a very small amount of void at first, then she proceeded to disappear for hundreds of years only to return having learned more about the void, and then she absorbed a dark naaru which granted her the purpleish void form.

This is inherently different from what we might get with new void elf recruits… maybe. Depending on how they intend to produce new void elves, it could take several hundreds of years or… they could go the Durzaan method but under less… malevolent ways.

Right now we can only look to Alleria as an exception, rather than the rule.

With that kind of example, it would be unfair to NOT call the Blood Elves the actual High Elves. The brits who later called themselves Americans moved away from their homeland, afterall.

It’ll only be in accordance with lore, and with +40 customization options coming for the Blood Elves alone… yeah, let us just say I can hardly imagine those are tattooes, markings and jewelry alone.

It’ll be three different coloured eyes that can be attached to different the different faces.

I would buy that if we were a different generation maybe. But we are the same people.

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No because the high elves were originally when WoW launched part of the alliance ( just weren’t playable ), the part of them moved later on into the horde and politically joined another organization.

Whatever floats your boat dude, its lame how you are defending this on the alliance char and behind the cover because I think how your main is somewhere in the horde.

It is unclear, this is true…

But what remains fact is that the physical change was caused by Nether-Prince Durzaan and we’ve seen nothing to indicate even the knowledge of how to do this transformation exists anymore.
And the absence of proof is not proof. I’m only going by what we’ve seen so far.

To make your scenario make sense, we’d need:

  • Established lore explaining why the Void Elves chose to change every recruit. When we know an elf can learn the powers without changing.
  • Established lore explaining how they gained this knowledge with Durzaan dead.
  • Established lore explaining why every recruit accepts this change.
  • Established lore explaining why Alleria does not undergo the change.

And even if they did all that, it would still grind me the wrong way that Alleria is just so darn special, when there’s no reason she should be.
She’s the same race, same physiology, same powers etc.

She’s not a special exception to the rule when we’ve seen nothing indicating elves change drastically physically upon studying the Void.

The only alternative I can accept, is that if they do for example something like this:

  • Locus-Walker reveals that he knows how to turn ordinary elves into Void Elves.
  • He also reveals that this change is what protects them from insanity due to the corruption. To wield the Void, you must ā€œbecomeā€ a part of it. Blablabla… Similar to how he’s not an ordinary Ethereal himself, he’s a voidy one.
  • He tells Alleria that she must undergo the change or lose herself to madness. She’s only endured it for this long because she’s exceptionally strong-willed, but no one can keep it at bay forever.
  • Alleria undergoes the change, along with every new recruit. Who must undergo the change before they are even allowed to learn anything.

Blizzard keeps doing this same mistake over and over…
They make the leader characters too different. Making people wonder why that character looks like this or that, and why their character can’t look like that as well.

They did the exact same mistake with Nathanos.
The Forsaken could have had a unique leader they could see themselves in, but nope… Rule of Cool, he’s different because reasons…
And people are still asking for ā€œNathanos-styleā€ forsaken.

They could have given him a unique model, but that remained loyal to how the Forsaken themselves look.
Like they did with Saurfang.

fek off, they are void elfs deal with it, stop this stupidness over high elfs jesus christ already.

The High Elven nation officially left the Alliance following the second war.

Kael’thas attempted to reconcile with the remainder of the Alliance the High Elves were once a part of, but the High Elves were ultimatively kicked out again anyhow.

So when WoW launched, the High Elves were in fact neutral with the exception of a smaller minority that were either with the Kirin’tor and not the Alliance, neutral or already in Alliance cities.

I’ll go for what makes sense. I enjoy High Elf lore from it’s beginning to it’s end. I also believe that having remaining High Elves is an overall mistake, and I believe they should in fact be killed off.

The fact that some keeps the name ā€˜High Elf’ despite the connotation associated with the name ā€˜Blood Elf’, the intention of that name, seems weird to me… as if the High Elves just doesn’t wish to honour their kin who died when the scourge invaded.

They have the tool for the transformation.

Of course, the question is as you mentioned, do they have the knowledge? I don’t see why not, Locus-walker is not that dumb I imagine.

Why would the recruits accept the change - for the same reason demon hunters accepted their change.

She IS a hero character, a lore character… she will of course be special, just like how Anduin is a special priest too, who wears heavy armour and uses a sword.

I can imagine there being something like this.

I would not be surprised if Alleria ends up mad at some point, if she does not die first.

That is not so much blizzard’s problem.

Blizzard have a lot of problems, but players being unable to get over their own idiocy is not one of blizzard’s problems.

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Maybe… Regardless I’d like it to make a lick of sense…

Either by giving us normal skinned Void Elves (with Void eyes)…
Something lore states now should be the case…

Or if they go with my other suggestion, make it so that Void Elves have to be turned blue because it protects them from insanity or something.
And then change Alleria as well.

That’s not comparable… One is about studying suddenly having physical transformative effects…

The other is about a dude wearing armor…

There’s nothing in lore saying Priests can’t wear plate, it’s pure gameplay.
And they can transmog to certain plate armors anyway.

As for a sword… In lore, if you have a hand you can use it…
Again, gameplay.

Perhaps… Time will tell…

Calm down now, there’s no need to insult everyone who doesn’t share your opinions or thoughts…

A players character is very important to them and there’s nothing wrong with asking for something, no need to throw generalized insults around.

False. They became High Elves who -called- themselves Blood Elves. That is the only difference. A High Elf exposed to Fel, even if fighting it, they get green eyes, if a Blood Elf never lived in Quel’thalas during TBC.

Bad example. Are English People and American people different Species? No. They are the same race, same as High and Blood Elves.

Except that they make lore sense.

They’ve never stated that High Elves will be playable though? Also , why Vareesa? She is a Kid, and she never even earned her title, she went from Farstrider Ranger to Ranger-General just because she made it up! No one promoted her! There are far better choices of High Elves to be a racial leader than someone who basically promoted themselves from Corporal to Field Marshall just because they decided to!

Also, that Keihndeth video is full of lore errors.

  1. The ā€˜High Elf’ walking up and down at the Allerian Stronghold throughout the entire video, has green eyes.

  2. Blood Elves did not drain fel. The Fel crystals were there to keep the buildings up. What the Exile was about was the fact that 90% of folk went ā€œYeah, we’re OK with taking sustenance from living creaturesā€ Whereas 10% went all Mana-Vegan. That’s it. That’s the sole difference. Blizzard have even confirmed this, that there are High Elves with Fel Green Eyes, and Blood Elves with Blue eyes, both of which are in game.

  3. He’s being very disinegenuous with his Lore there. ā€œHigh Elves are not Blood Elvesā€ Uhh, sorry to break it to you, but 90% of them are. Not all High Elves are Blood Elves, but all Blood Elves are High Elves. Its a name. That is all. That is literally all, apart from Blood Elves eat meat and High Elves stayed Vegan (In terms of Mana).

  4. He describes the other Allied races as being almost identical to core races…Umm…Has he completely missed the point? Yes they -are- similar to core races! That -is- the point!

  5. So Alliance interact with High Elves. So what? Horde characters interact with Unshackled, with Titans, with Vrykul, with Murlocs, with Centaur. Doesn’t mean anything. So there are loads of High Elves around (Far more than canonically exist according to Blizzard, they are a ā€˜rare sight’.) OK, fair enough. Where’s the Ogres then?

Too many lore mistakes in that video. He actually thinks Blood Elves had the Fel Crystals to feed off. He talks about Ion only playing Horde side, so not understanding the Alliance side, but…really, has this dude ever played Horde side? If he had, he’d know that 50% of his video is just plain wrong, by lore.

Actually I think you’ll find the High Elves ( who had by then renamed themselves as Blood Elves, were a Neutral Nation when WoW launched. a Few High Elves still fought for the Alliance, but Quel’thalas had seceded from it, at the same time as Gilneas and Strom.

Oh, and lastly, he makes the dumbest mistake ever. "Look at these options, High Elves could look all like Wood Elves, with Warpaint and tattoos and feathers in their hair!

Yeah, That’s Rangers. Has he never heard of the -Farstriders?- Where all the High Elf adults would have learned to become Rangers? Where both Vareesa and Alleria learned to be Rangers?

Thinking that is a High Elf alone look is just crazy. It 100% is not.

Like I say, there are even more holes I could point out in his lore understanding, but that will do for now.

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Ouf people are to obsessed with High Elfs, it’s basically a meme by now.

Not even a chance :smiley:
And if we revert we’re Blood Elves, not High Elves, sorry.

I like us blueberries too…

But I want our lore to make sense.
As of now we don’t know where new recruits come from because the transformation was a trap set by Durzaan.
We also don’t even know if the knowledge to turn Elves into blueberries exist, as Durzaan died.
So anyone else learning the Void powers won’t be turning into blueberries. Just look at Alleria she studied the Void for a long time under Locus-Walker without becoming blue.
And this was long before she gobbled up a darkened naaru.

So either let us choose normal skin tones to show that new recruits are being trained.

OR

Come up with lore that explains how everyone would turn into a blueberry.
My example:

Either would be fine by me… I just want the lore to make sense…

I will just leave here those links because there are good reasons why high elves could be implemented into the alliance as playable race no matter what pro horde fanboys say :

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20762037085?fbclid=IwAR1ktvze5exo5qU_s07a9QHrMmc3m-WfglT2USS25IeB3ItyZNxiCN7gaks

https://m.facebook.com/notes/legacy-of-quelthalas/the-alurna-manifest-of-high-elves/1772785739696244/?tn=%2As-R

https://blizzardwatch.com/2019/08/14/alliance-high-elves-allied-race/

Pro Horde fanboys. Really lmfao!! That is as bad as when people call the Alliance sad and desperate.

Just no. On both counts No.

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