Picture this. You are a horde adventurer. You have war mode on. No pvp gear because you want a nice fair fight.
Maybe you are in stealth if you are a rogue. Maybe you placed traps in key locations if you are a hunter in stealth. Or just a warlock with an army of demons marching and looking for his next prey.
You spot your prey. An innocent little night elf. You pounce! They fall into your trap! They catch the nose of your demon horde!
One of two things happen.
You kill them and they shout profanities in chat, report you and complain in the forums.
Or you almost kill them and they queue for follower dungeons and disappear. Denying you the honor in exchange for avoiding the minor inconvenience of dying once.
The wolf goes hungry.
Would someone kindly explain to me the logic in having warmode on and avoiding PvP at all costs? And even having the GALL of being offended when you are killed in open world?
I understand war mode gives extra gold and exp and stuff. But that is AT THE COST, of risking death by enemy faction. When i find you, you pay the price. 
If you are the kind of teddy bear that just wants to hug his enemies, why oh why do you flag yourself as killable?
Makes no sense to me.
Didnāt you just get the explanation you are asking for?.. Blizzard gives an incentive ālucrativeā to even non-pvp players, and when they by-pass you with another system Blizzard made, you try and put it on the player and not Blizzard?
Maybe Blizzard shouldnāt allow to accept ques while in combat, just like you canāt accept summons?
People want the path of least resistance, and when WM gives bonus ofc. people will use it? And it probably takes them less time to que follower dungeon and leave, rather than risk you sitting and farming their corpse for āgloryā
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Only time I turn on Warmode is if I want some extra xp, maybe doing questing in Darkmoon Faire on a lower level alt. This is a safe zone so itās free xp.
But sometimes I forget to turn it off and Iām out in the world and get ganked. I just spirit-healer res and hearth and pay my 500g stupid tax to repair.
I assume 90% of people in Warmode are there for the xp bonus. Is there a rep bonus too?
You get a minor honor reward for killing an enemy player in open world.
There are also some transmogs i think you can farm this way. Donāt quote me on this though.
I just do it for the fun of it. I would be thrilled in being killed by someone stronger. So i can respawn and try again.
As for WM, you get extra gold, rep and exp gains i believe.
^^ This
Back in BFA when we had to grind AP I had WM on purely for the extra gains.
The issue is that Blizzard have to bribe people to turn the mode on. There should be no bribery and then it would just be people who actually want to PvP.
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I am on an RP realm and on that realm sharding only happens with other RP realms. The unfortunate thing is there are like 10 alliances players versus 1 horde on those realms.
In bfa there was a reason to farm conquest (i think for essences??), so yes i tried to do fast a weekly of 100 conquest or something, and then turned it off immediately again. But it also resulted in indeed running away from alliance. Thereās not reason to start a lost fight.
Next to that as a healer thereās no win condition anyway. I do no damage.
But BFa was the last (and first) expansion i had sometimes warmode on.
I see what you mean but i dont really see it as a bribe.
You risk death by enemy faction, so you are running an extra risk and should be compensated for that risk.
Iām of the opinion open world pvp should not be optional at all unless its an RP server. But i digress.
Regardless, you turn war mode on, you are prey >:D
ā¦unless you instantly queue away x.x
You canāt understand that more rewards from world quests and more xp when levelling are bribes?
I currently have a bunch of characters in WM on stood in Tanaris answering a question daily at the Anniversary event purely because it gives me more XP. I have zero interest in PvP and wont take part.
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i only turn it off if iām struggling to find a group for a world boss, otherwise itās never off, regardless of level or gear, i want to be attacked, i donāt demand to win all the time, i donāt whine in battlegrounds if we are losing, donāt even try to tell me that this isnāt an entitled generation, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, deal.with.it.
permanent pvp on all realms. NOW. flipping crybabies.
nowā¦someone help me down from my soapbox, broken hip is a death sentence you know.
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Not bribes friend. Rewards for the risk taken.
Though i should point out, i have no interest in players under 80. If i see a 78 with WM on, i ignore them. No honor in that.
In bfa we had borrowed power which were called essences. Those essence you had to obtain in all kinds of content. There were also essences you only could optain in pvp while they were BiS in PvE. So people got forced into warmode and pvp. Yeah, it was a bribe.
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You and i see eye to eye.
Hope to see you in a battleground. Give me a good fight! 
Thats foul. I wouldnt want PVE rewards to be locked to PvP or vice versa. Though i believe it is not the case now.
You can turn warmode off and go about your day if you dont wish to be ganked.
Hell you can even dance in the face of the ganker, taunting him that he cant kill you x)
that would infuriate me. Denying me my prey. How dare you >:(
Kinda funny how many fear for their toons life as it was their own or how personal they take it when they are getting attacked in war mode.
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Thatās a bribe.
Turn this mode on and youāll get better things for the same time spent.
Which is exactly why Iām using it on my levelling alts and why I had it on my main during BfA.
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Itās not really any different to PvPers getting upset when others donāt want to PvP in open world or that PvP fights in open world are rarely ever fair.
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Not going to argue. I respect your opinion.
Though my opinion stands. The rewards for war mode come with a cost. This cost is the risk of death.
I can see you heavily dislike pvp, which is fine.
Personally, i find the danger of questing in open world and risking being ambushed at any time exciting. Since i am not a āPvPerā. I do a little of everything.
If open world PvP really was so popular it wouldnāt need bribes to get people to use it.
Youāve only got to look how small the take up is on WM on and how few shards it has compared to WM off.
All enticements/bribes should have been purely pvp related and not PvE in any way shape or form.
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lets be honestā¦
the world is for leveling, no1 at max level needs to go out into the world ā¦
everything is instanced in m+ , Rated pvp or raids
nothing will change until they change that
all 12 of my characters are sitting in dornogol, and never leave it .
