Warhammer™ is vastly superior

I don’t believe you.

Everyone loves Warhammer, and you have way too high post count to not be trolling for (you’s)

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Shrug Believe what you will.

I believe you have been sent from the Warp by agents of Chaos! Begone, beast!

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How can you guys not love this dude?

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I also don’t like Warhammer FB.

Lets just hope they dont ruine Warhammer fantasy(40k) given with the recent press release statement from GW.

I mean Warhammer fantasy has everything crashed together,from the folklore legends to the older human civilizations in a magic setting.On top of that they dont have this ridicules power problem like we have in Warcraft and the constant retcon in lore.

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Yeah I think Warcraft’s lore went into stupid power creep because it’s written by literal Warhammer fanboys, allowing your lore to creep into SUPER COSMIC MEGAPOWER EXTREME HEROES is High School tier garbage.

This is subjective though.

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It’s more widespread but warhammer does have a large following.

They’re different enough. Warhammer wasn’t doing anything new, and yes, I am old enough to remember its release in 1983.
It took a lot of influences from other sources, mainly authors as mentioned above, who had in turn took their influences from our myths and legends going back to the start of recorded human history.

As for its reputation for being ‘Grimdark’ It both is and isn’t. I mean come on, Squigs? Orcs, and Orks as they are in WH40k.

I love the fact that people think Orcs are really macho and Waaaagh, without realising that they are a race of hermaphrodites who are actually fungi. There are no Male and Female Orcs, they’re like an Action Man doll, they have nothing at all going on ‘downstairs’ because they reproduce via spores.

Yeah, sure its Grimdark and not a bit ridiculous at times, and I’ve got a neat bridge to sell you if you believe that! At least Blizzard had the sense to go “That makes no sense, there -are- Male Orcs and Female Orcs”

The lore is pretty neat, but some of it is just silly.

Even going into WH40K some of it makes no damned sense, “We can tinker with the very genetic makeup of a human being and turn them into a supersoldier, essentially making them something that is not human, but we’re only going to do it to boys, because we can alter the very genetic makeup of a human, but we choose not to do it to girls”.

There is nothing about the process of becoming a Space Marine that would be impossible to do to a female. GW got into some hot water about that, and their fanbase didn’t help. Even the Adepta Sororita were initially received with extremely tepid views, and as much as they kick bottom, they are still ‘normal humans at peak performance’ and not ‘Genetically modified super soldiers’.

Games Workshop do not have a good track record at all on that particular P.R thing.

In that regard Blizzard have been far better.

Both settings have flaws, neither is better, because they are objectively just different, but to claim that Warcraft is a copy of Warhammer is to ignore the fact that Warhammer itself is a copy of a copy of a copy.

WHy not just appreciate the different games for what they are?

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If everyone loved the same thing we’d still be living in caves painting on walls.

Warhammer lore was always top1 and my favorite… when you read WoW books its just badly copy/pasted warhammer lore, I wont suprise if one of those writers end in jail as plagiator someday.

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Ehh, the thing is, a lot of the Warhammer lore is itself taken from other sources, and I say this as someone who is a very good friend with a Warhammer writer for the Black Library.

I mean thats the quote, isn’t it? “Creativity is Hiding your Sources”

Warhammer has nothing unique to it. Apart from the bizarre idea of Orc Hermaphrodites as I previously mentioned.

Nor does Warcraft. Neither of them does. Thats the point.

First of all Warhammer lore started at 1983, not much stuff to be taken away in that time…

nothing unique ha? I will go with just one example, but there is countless.
Many people are fan of Zerg swarms right? But only low amount of people know that Zergs are actualy plagiated Warhhamer Tyranids, if you like Zerg, check the Tyranid lore, entire Zerg lore is shallow compared to Tyranid lore, when you read the book about Tyranid invasion you really have glipse of fear how is bad to be catched on planet invaded by Tyranid swarm tendril.

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WH lore is taking everything you can find across and putting in after some polishing or adoptation.

Swarms like tyranid or zerg appeared in sci fi long before WH

Truth, but, who read those books before 1983, people will call you crazy if you read those stuff in that time, lifestyle of people was totaly diferent, but warhammer popularized it…

WH lore writers surely did :wink:

You know this thread is about Warhammer FB, not WH40k, right?

OP has mentioned 40k a fair few times, I think it’s a bit of a warcraft-bashing thread disguised as (for me at least) a comparison of my two favorite fantasy/sci-fi-fantasy franchises.

Anything goes really.

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