Orks are the comic relief of 40k, and they do so in a fitting manner.
To my knowledge there is nothing grim dark about tau except the fourth sphere expansion. And Age of Sigmar doesnt seem to have a dark bone in it (that last one is said as an outsider, Any AoS players are welcome to correct me).
Well, at least it started off as a WC v WHFB thread. But if anything goes then both are not as good as Lexx.
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As long as you do not believe starcraft to be better than 40k there is no ill will from me.
I agree, WH40k is better than Starcraft. It’s a much bigger universe with the freedom to do many different types of stories. Oddly enough, I’ve been rereading some of the early Black Library novels over the last month (Eisenhorn, Gaunt’s Ghosts and the first Ragnar Blackmane book). I think I enjoyed them just as much as I did 20 years ago.
Warhammer lore is best lore ever in gaming word…those who says oposite probably didnt dip enough deep into Warhammer: end times and 40k.
To begin with type in youtube: Book of Choyer, and watch and lisen few lore narratives, they are just glimpses of books yet awesome
of many games combined, there has not been alot of original content by Blizzard ever. Tho I’m not really sure if Blizzard is actually copying stuff from elsewhere or they just happen to come up with ideas that have been done before.
They all rip off the Brothers Grimm anyway. Who basically brought together a load of folk stories in one book.
I’ve been playing WoW since 2008, and Warhammer since just 2015 (I was lucky enough to get the Skaven v High Elves box set two weeks before Age of Sigmar came out), and Warhammer has by far cost me the most money!
It’s all William King’s (also the author of Illidan) fault! I had read everything of his that wasn’t Warhammer related, because I had no interest in Warhammer (despite being a D&D nerd since I was a kid), then I stumbled upon the Gotrek & Felix books in a dusty, used bookshop. I actually got the set as a 40th birthday present, so I still think it was cheaper than other midlife crisis cliches, like a sports car or a divorce.
Oh, and having a 3000+ point Orruk army, I really do feel I should correct those still calling them Orcs…
I remember seeing that just as I got into the hobby. Island of blood wasn’t it?
aah good old wh1 
gonna play some wood elf
The only 2 things I can think of that WoW offered that was new where Battlegrounds and Flying.
WoW (like all modern fantasy) is heavily influenced by Tolkein and all fantasy MMO’s have DnD as their major influence.
WoW itself seems more of a polished copy of EQ over any other MMO (I believe there where several ex EQ devs on the WoW development team).
At the end of the day who really cares who copied who, the important thing is how good is the game.
Just saying, Have you ever heard of the Film ‘Aliens’ released in 1986, based on the original in 1979. Pretty famous franchise, that now has its own RPG based on it. Anyway, it rather famously inspired Games Workshop to copy its premise for their game of ‘Space Hulk’ released in 1989 (Which was awesome) and the Xenomorphs from that film to be called ‘Genestealers’ in GW’s board game. Quite a while later, GW explained where Genestealers came from, that they were a biological weapon created by the Tyranids, a previously unwritten set of races that suddenly entered the universe. As in they didn’t exist until they were written into lore, to explain the Genestealers, who didn’t exist until they were copied from a film that was released Ten years previously…
Just sayin’…
Umm, people old enough to have done so?
Media didn’t start in 1983 you know…
Ehh, personally I don’t like them, not the Orks themselves, they’re a staple of fantasy myth going back through recorded time, but the ones in WH are just -too- comedy for me to take them seriously.
They are pretty grim if you think about it. People who will fight and kill you for the ‘Greater Good’, the implication being that you are bad and your existence is an affront to the universe that must be erased.
Thats pretty grim if you’re on the other side of it 
Nah its not. It -is- very good (I have to say that, I’m good friends with one of the authors who writes for Warhammer 
) , but it’s not Forgotten Realms D&D setting level of detailed or complex.
Its good, its not the greatest.
Fair point, but they are also the only major faction (to my knowledge) that conducts any form of diplomacy with their enemies. They have an entire caste for it (water), and they even have human defectors within the empire, which in some cases fight as auxiliaries (gu’vesa).
I’m not saying they aren’t dark, but they certainly are less dark or at least less OTT than chaos or the imperium for instance.
Mixed feelings personally. I can see their appeal but they are also just too over the top(seeing a pattern?). They are good for making fun of or as an excuse for random conversions though.
They give everyone numerous and repeated offers to join. Even the orks which “allthough the water caste has -almost- given up on them” is amazing. Try playing the Ork Stronghold scenario in Dawn of War as the Tau once, it’s hilarious. And it’s not a “assimilate or die” kind choice in joining either.
Furthermore, they don’t go out of their way to fight and kill other cultures just because they exist and aren’t part of the Tau. Unlike say the Imperium of Man.
Yeah, thats legit, if you had to look at all the species in WH40K, the Tau are pretty much the ‘nicest’ of a bad bunch.
I like some of the older stuff with Orks, and I distinctly remember as a teenager reading the “Yeah they’re sentient mushrooms” bit and going “Oh for Goodness sake…”
I mean they’re not even creepy in the way that Botani are…
I remember playing through Gorgrond in WoD, and seeing plant creatures, and then Orcs, and thinking…“Oh no…not again…”
Thankfully that did not happen…
Why didn’t Blizzard get the Games Workshop contract for WH, bros, why it’d have to be this way…
Warhammer is boring
the only one I even remotely enjoyed playing was shadow of the horned rat, and that was basic af
Let me stop this heresy right here.
The xenos deserve naught but death by bullet, sword and flame!
Anyone who sympathizes with them are spiritually corrupted and must be purged before they spread their corruption unto others!
From the person who calls WoW a race war!
