Warlock design going into next expansion

Classes Warlock
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Too bad people don’t see that. In the eyes of average Joe destruction is too easy to play cause we just spam chaos bolt.

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what selfheal is affliction? Versus all those classes with interrupt every few seconds u drain nonstop drainlife? forget it… this expansion is worst selfheal ever for affli… missing spells and astounding bad blizzard work - if you want play arena with affli take bucket for vomit and dont forget to send blizzard money for doing nothing

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You need to learn how to kite other classes interrupt. Also interrupting you means they wont interrupt your teamate. I was playing affliction for a while and even DK was had troubles on killing me.

Problem in affliction is damage: After certain rating ppl will simple ignore you and go for your teamates.

Fix damage, remove darkglare - problem solved.

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not its not, makes the game boring, specially in pvp and specially when sp’s got their dot duration the same…

Our dots should last 20secs aswell.

not flaming, im real on this one, but maybe at the rating you play not at higher ratings so i say:

we should be able to choose between both like before.

This… this pisses the shiz out of me, was good in pve for 4 years, and??

So now needs to be in the gutter outside of raids? what kind of logic is that? holy F

100% true

I dont know about him, but being a 2.7k xp + i would like to hear more on that, specially when you dont have Curse of exaustion for 2 expacs(maybe 3) maybe im just bad compared to you.

Bad dk, dont know what to tell you… 4 interrupts per cast, ams, amz… dude stop.

while damage is extremly low and darkglare needs to be removed aff would still be a tier bellow destru, just wouldnt be tier 25 in arena (trash tier)

Edit:
Also grim of sacrifice needs to be nerfed in pvp or haunt/shadow’s embrace needs buffing.

Not having a pet its the worst these days when healers look for drinks 24/7.

Im not flaming or trying to make you feel bad but you are completly delusional if you think aff dmg its the only reason people dont play it.

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In any case, affliction is less likely to be killed in arena than destro/demonology. That is happening in any rating, as rating represent your current skill and opponent skill. And yes in my rating even as destruction i can make dk life harder.

As for stop misguiding was for the one person that keeps complaining about affliction in every topic no matter the subject, and asking to bring cataclysm rotation back.

I never said that affliction deserves to be trash outside pve - I simple said, the whole legion I was at the bottom of dps meters both pve and m+ as a demonologist - think about me, you only complain for 1 patch. Don’t make conclusions taking from things I never claimed.

And yes damage nowdays is everything (unfortunately)! The reason everyone played affliction during 1 expansions says it all. I agree rotation is bad, but fixing dps will fix rotation.

Before you mock me again with your 2.7k xp, I ll let you know that I ve been mocked many times for not playing affliction. In your brains I might be an ignorant who don’t care about affliction dmg but in that case I could simple say Nah, who cares about affl, its time for demonology, I am happy with these changes.

So think about my side, saying that affliction damage is bad and supporting on fixing it.

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again, wrong. And once again i have to be arsh and ask… do you know how your own class works?
Do you know what mastery does for destru and that demo has a soul link?
Both demo and destru are tankier than affliction and its not even close.

yes but then you misguide people on a matter where you clearly dont know what you are talking about.

and?

fixing dot damage wont make dots lasting freakin 15 seconds any funnier just because now they do damage sorry.

You will be bored but powerfull… fun af.

I didnt mock, i trully didnt nor i do in these forums (lock ones), i just stated that your affliction pvp acessment was wrong, just that.

And demo had its time in both legion s1/s2/3 just so you know. (pvp wise wich is what i talked about)

But again, while the damage would make affliction playable in arenas it wouldnt make it any stronger than destru for example, for the simple fact you die before your dots actually do enough damage.

If you make dots do a lot of damage then we are overpowered wich aint fun.

Hence why i said problem aint only with damage but with survivability aswell.

With demo i got constant 20% dmg reduction, with destru i got constat 5% with a chance to proc another %.
With affli i got 0%, that is the problem.

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nah nah nah nah

You just tossing aggressiveness assuming things i don’t know, simple ignoring what I said. If I didn’t knew how my class works after 14 years i shouldn’t even bother answering to you.

Yes sir, it’s 2019, it’s so easy to know what mastery is for destro, and what are the best az traits, cause we live in internet and Twitch era. I know that believing people are ignorant makes you happy, but 99.99% are not - sorry.

In fact you might not know that how affliction can kite way better in arena, and how good we were at the begging of this expansion. You can watch and learn some high rating players in twitch. Those people turned into destro cause affl dmg scaled badly with gear. If you never kited before and tried to play affliction like you play destro - sorry.

Also you missing a point here, demonology dmg in arenas are even worse (yes cause tyrant can be kited and demonbolt is small burst) and once locked by warrior is dead (yes, fel lord is laughable), as affliction can outrun them. Destro is simple better than other 2 specs is because:

  1. DAMAGE (supprise)
  2. Two schools of magic.

Cause I had this argument before with people that are able to fight a wall, I ll let you know that I also had 2.2k exp and i have 47% win rating. Also happens to do m+ and raid, and talk of behalf of mostly pve.

Edit: How come 50% of your post it’s you insulting people and you believe you are always right. Why I even bothered :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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you are confused cause even though kitting is tied to survivability in most cases like a frost mage, dh or ww it aint to the warlock specific case due to 2 things:
→ melee mobility
->lack of slow/root

So by assuming that because you have a sligthier longer gate than demo/destru and you can spec portal (unlike destru) you are actually higher in survivability than any of those 2 specs you are not only wrong but are also misleading other warlocks.

That is not the case, demo and destru are both tankier than affliction in pvp.

so… just because you have ACCESS to kitting tools, doesnt mean you can actually KITE.

you were talking about affliction not demo, but yes demo damage in arena is laughable.

you have this as demo, i think you mean 3 (shadow, fire, chaos) since as demo you only have shadow and chaos.

this is pretty bad.

that is a diferent argument.

like i said, i wasnt insulting at all… i even did a little disclaimer also.

On the 2nd part, its not about being always right its about the xp i have, specially in pvp, as affliction and the fact that you were misleading people about a spec i know pretty well after 12/13 years of arena.

Anyway, although we do need to look to the current problems with the spec i would like to focus more on feedback going foward.

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