Pretty huge or not? we are not really tanky anymore into Jungles and Meele Cleaves specially TSG rather would lose some DMG than the 150% armor :o
I said it more than once thru need to buff our survivability, not exactly destruction but Affliction and Demo.
Demon armor, Demon Skin and Soul link should be baseline.
im okay with soul link but than pet needs to be less tanky
Even less tanky? They are already dying by just looking at it, they need s but more.
no thats unhealty design wrath was perfect
soul link very good pet dies still very fast alot of dmg still squishy but not to squishy but with next patch we are atleast killable
A class designed to fight with pets and those are dying easily is bad design.
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The nerfs are huge. Outlaw, any hunter specc and fury already are the biggest counters and with the loss or physical damage reduction from Demon Armor we are going to flop even more. No amount of stamina will make up for it. The set nerf is w/e, against good teams you couldn’t stack much anyways, it’s just that people will now run and wait again which will end up being giga toxic. Frankly, i think destro will be kinda dead next patch. Blizzard did it again. The Blasphemy stun is w/e.
It’s mindblowing how rogues, hunters and warriors are running rampart and all they do is constantly nerf locks.
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After doing some math it seems that physical damage will be 17% bigger. Destruction will be unplayable Affli will be hard but might be playable and it seems Demo will be go to spec.
Guess that means i am out.
Quick questions:
- 2-piece bonus will occur 30 sec CD everytime it procs (will it renew every soulshard spender?) or 30 sec window for entire 1-10 “pack”.
- If it’s 30 sec total, do blizz understand it will be useless in pvp ?
- If its 30 sec per proc DO BLIZZ understand it will be USELESS in pvp ?
- If the above are true I can certainly say, destro will use ONLY pvp pieces and wont care at all about pve set bonus becuase ITS unuasable. Blizz should refund the transfers for pve gear…
Notes say:
- Ritual of Ruin (2-piece bonus) now lasts 30 seconds.
The stacking buff is called Impending Ruin. So from the notes only the instant should have a 30 seconds timer.
What is way worse is the demon armor removal. Blizzard doesn’t understand that the dominating god classes rogue, hunter and warrior already just run over you and with the loss of physical damage reduction it will get exorbitantly worse.
With the trinket nerf you will not see any more locks queueing. It will be melee mongo domination again.
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Oh so the 2-piece change doesn’t matter at all. In pvp only impending ruin matters (prestacking).
Yes demon armor is HUGE nerf. With all these furry warriors and outlaw rogues dominating arena atm, it will be close to impossible to survive, sadly 
Without demon armor it will be ~13% more dmg taken…
fury warrior dominating arena ah yes i think for pisslow rating warlocks are dominating destro has rn lowest skillcap im ashamed so i play demo
but i think RMP is dominating 
i mean tbh theres an RMP with an 80% wr on 220 Games on 3k Rating if thats normal than idk that Comp should be nerf not even the best jungle can win against them and jungle was consider a soft counter but they do to much dmg and mage is to tanky
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On top of that BM hunter gets a flat 4% dmg buff. Playing lock will be nearly impossible i fear.
Um yeh like um ye dude like idk ye
Quit the crappy backhanded narrative you are trying to build ok?
Also demo is for infants cuz its that easy and thats why you play it
Personally i think its good that warlocks get forced to play demo to get their soul link and not worry about spell locks as much, and stop forcing themsleves into frontload damage style which they are way behind on compared to all the other OP casters that kill you with instants
Nice mortal strike effect buff on felguard
i play all classes so i anyway cba about nerfs buffs only one who isnt geard is my pala
furry is like cocacola you can make every comp in game. and RMP never nerf…and season 1 or 2 one shot was for ever no big nerfs.
Every time we ask for survivability, they nerf it. Maybe we should very for nerfs and then they buff us?
I still don’t understand why Demon skin, Demon Armor and soul link isn’t baseline. We should be the tanky caster, not mage. Mage was always the mobility caster.
After playing games today I can definitely say the nerf is huge. Every nerf is huge, the culmination is really game breaking when you add together Echoing Resolve, 2pc nerf, 4pc nerf, and Demon Armor nerf.
Warlock already struggled against physical damage classes, they literally buffed Demon Armor earlier this expansion? The Dark Pact buff they issued a bit ago is not enough to offset the sustained damage increase you will take. Not to mention Warriors will shattering throw every. single. one.
I’m actually at a bit of a loss after putting so much time into playing warlock. I don’t want to play this class for the first time ever basically. Really gutted.
it didnt struggle against physical damage classes
the only bad matchups we had is herocleave and Jungle.
RMP is weird we kinda have the upper hands but they can still win and are winning