Yeah man, 20% of ally pop wanted to play blood elf, give me a break man especially when majority of zugs are orc and ud, what is the possible reason for that
Rogues are who is really op, playing as warlock is impossible to kill rogue in fair duel 1vs1.
Sap, Stun lock, kidney shot, blind, cloak of shadows. With all respect rogue cloak of shadows and stun should be nerfed.
From what source do you draw that conclusion?
Arena stats and fact that you dont see be in bg unless its ally, they could be higing in raids i guess but if only pve bois rerolled why such ques?
Arena didnât exist in vanilla what are you on about? How can you compare something to nothing?
TBC never was balanced, never said otherwise, I keep saying how mage is S tier for everything but tanking and healing. Thereâs plenty of alliance in top 100 arena teams, so whatâs the issue? Seems fair enough considering how unbalanced the game is as a whole.
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Oh you mean the ratios? That are raiders, ironforge.pro.
On the balance, i still think that wotf is straight up broken, by that doesnt matter, rerolling is caused by people simply believing that some racial is superior
Dude rogues are so underpowered, sometimes you have to use a cooldown or two to 1v1 someone!
Theyâve only got some of the best CC and escape abilities in the entire game, itâs so unfair as a rogue.
Cloak should last 30 sec with a 20 sec CD.
So Alliance isnât majority faction in TBCC compared to vanilla classic, so what? There are still relatively more alliance now than it was horde back then.
There is no denying that he exaggerates to the point where itâs not true.
That being said, alliance pvp server population is still steadily declining relative to horde, so there is clearly a systemic problem going on for alliance.
Current numbers are not sustainable, especially considering how servers tend to reach a certain breakpoint in faction balance before a rapid mass exodus happens.
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This is where you have to keep your head on straight while analyzing the issue. Faction imbalance on servers has a certain tendency to fall to a sort of snowball effect where the minority faction wants to get out. In my mind Blizzard should do some more targeted free server transfers and mergers and the like, what they have done now is too little I think.
The argument that is being presented isnât very good, the idea that Horde finally being able to play BGs will create a mass exodus from Alliance to Horde isnât very good. Why would they leave friends, guilds and other characters just for some racials that maybe are better suited for arena? No, people will not faction change over it (with a few exceptions MAYBE, considering that thereâs quite a few alliance top 100 arena teams already).
The argument that HvH will spell doom for alliance is meme tier. If you talk about server specific issues you have all of my sympathy and wish for solutions. People donât want to roll the minority faction on pvp servers with too big of an imbalance. The argument I saw at the start was that HvH will cause alliance guilds to migrate to other servers (not faction change) because of it, which makes no sense since thereâs no battlegroups.
People can cry all they want about HvH, but that wonât do anything about the real issue, servers in themselves.
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Lol best class on the game is crying xD Maybe git gud or accept the fact you wont be OP against every other class? First some Yonoscala warlock fill the forum with salt and tears, now rogue? Why do I think its same person? Are there realy so many losers out there?
Well, the faction imbalance on pvp servers now fell another 1% for alliance.
I didnât claim that alliance will die out, but seeing how these snowball effects tend to pan out, it usually starts with a few rerollers/quitters before it suddenly picks up momentum.
Several of the servers are now in the 35% territory for alliance where it becomes hard to recruit new guild members (guilds are still around, but members are quitting so there is a decreasing pool size to recruit from).
At some point, so bigger guilds might transfer (it has happened several times already, usually to the alliance megaservers), which is very visible when it happens to the remaining alliance.
At some point it just isnt worth staying around anymore, as there are literally no advantages to being the minority.
Bad AH economy, fewer players around to group with, guilds struggling as they bleed members and cant recruit enough new ones, ganking outside the cities, much harder time to farm in the open world, and the list goes on.
My own server Golemagg has been steadily decreasing, it was 39% some weeks ago and is now in the 36% territory.
We struggle a lot atm with recruitment, and so do several other guilds on the server.
I fear that we might soon approach that breaking point, especially if a major guild should trigger it by transferring off the server.
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I donât disagree, I just wonder what this has to do with HvH. TBCC is probably seeing a drop in players by the day and I donât think too many new ones are joining us. Depupulation and faction imbalance is bound to happen regardless, letâs try and fix that instead of fighting windmills.
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Ho a thread asking a nerf about war how original⌠it really does feel like 2007 again !
Because it was one of the (very few) remaining checks that discouraged a population majority to spiral out of control. With longer horde queues, you still had one mechanic that discouraged people from rolling the most popular faction, as doing so meant that you had to take the tradeoff of long bg queues. Which people here found unacceptable, and Blizzard unfortunately yielded and removed that last obstacle.
There is a reason why TBC private servers tried to combat this population imbalance by giving more incentives to playing the minority rather than helping the majority. Pservers did this with several âbuffsâ to the minority faction with stuff like more rep gains, free mounts, more xp or shared quest drops from mobs to encourage more play on the unpopular side. They should have gone down this route instead, because if there was anything that 13 years of TBC pservers taught us, it was that you need to encourage the unpopular choice (going alliance) rather than cementing the popular one (going horde).
The population imbalance atm just seems to worsen week by week for alliance, and based on experience with said pservers, there is little reason to believe that this trend is going to reverse in the future. Being on the majority side just has too many benefits, with no real drawbacks anymore. I predict that we will soon see the 35-36% mark for alliance on pvp servers within a couple of months at the most, based on current population trends.
The danger is not that the racials will cause people to reroll horde, but that decreasing player numbers on alliance side will cause more and more players to not have a good time on alliance as the number of players/friends/guilds decrease either due to transfers or quitting, as well as the other drawbacks of being in the minority.
Itâs only more popular with PvPers (until WotLK). The overall number is closer than youâd think. Itâs just that Alliance players donât usually PvP very much. Well, until WotLK, like I mentioned above.
Will you complain about queue times and beg for AvA when that day comes?
Also, Horde players pay the same subscription amount as the Alliance, so we should be able to do Battlegrounds whenever we feel like it, just like the Alliance does.
The thing you describe ofc might happen in reverse in wotlk, but either way itâs not healthy for the server communities at all.
Same faction bgs were a really bad solution because it encourages imbalances to spiral out of control. A cheap and easy solution maybe, but a really bad one for the long term health of the game.
If Blizzard re-released TBC today with same faction bgs, the faction imbalance would probably be far, far worse as people now know perfectly well how itâs gonna unfold.
The rock wrote to the gamemaster: âScissors are perfectly balanced but for the love of god nerf paper.â
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The fact that you need to kite warr just shows you how bad rogue you are. how about using some of your gazillion ccâs and cdâs and just win without being a p***y. Or cry on forums that there is actually a class that stand some chance against rogue.