We deserve it more than you deserve the air you breath.
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like i have said many many many time.
most people on warmode use it not because they love pvp but because of the reward.
all they have to do is remove all kind of reward and the problem will solve gimself.
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they cant do this
because they have to have a lot of people use this mode
to justify why this mode was put in game
problem is its not the people that they want who use it so they have to force out people out of it just so allience turn it on
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I should force all ppl to have WM on. Its a war in the endâŚ
But forcing isnt no good. and thereâs no solution to this riddle. every step blizz do will bring some complain.
that the problem, they need high sensitive reward to bring people at doing something, their is the problem, remove the reward and you will see who really use youâre feature.
then if you see that the % is lower then expected, fix it.
I am sure if there is no reward, WPvP will be so dead and only will be done, by some groups of people and really hard to find. Will have some places, but you can not attack people with WM off, useless thing 
So with no reward this future will be dead and Blizzard know it. But WarMode is something, that BFA want to have, so itâs closed circle.
well to be honest, what I did read long before warmode was a thing, it looked like many players Specialy alliance already back then didnt realy want world pvp at all, but many where on pvp servers due to a lot of different reasons, like friends being there etcâŚ, nothing is gona help that, well exept better rewards, though the rewards has to be fair and now they aint, also think it looks like blizz is lowering the reward to 385 next week so that should atleast somewhat help the situation.
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still you know i know everyone knows that gear should have been never part of equation here
but blizzard knows that without gear which effectively forces pve players into pvp that they dont want to do this feature is utter failure
thats why allience will be welfare faction with free gear till the end of expansion just to justify WM being in game
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You canât be incentivised to like something, if you like wpvp you will have WM on regardless of the buff, if you donât like wpvp you would only put WM on when there is a faction imbalance.
Blizzard disagrees so they are doubling down on the incentives, which proves my point.
ilvl 400 loot. Right now the hardest content in the game gives 400 ilvl loot. Just give the best loot in the game for the most braindead activity someone can do. SEEMS LIKE A GOOD LOGIC BLIZZARD.
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Itâs not a reward, itâs a compensatin.
And itâs idiocy if Blizzard ever thought the playerbase would see it that way.
Just do away with the compensation, compensate in a different way. Be more creative.
They canât decide on how to make classes more engaging, so they dumb them down, and homogenise the crap out of them instead of putting the time and effort to make them fun to play.
They canât fix sharding imbalances, so they use free raid gear that encourages almost genocidal levels of ganking and camping.
They canât seem to make players connect with their characters so they strip out every bit of sense of character progression to follow theâŚlazyâŚpath of least resistance.
Thatâs just the way it is.
I was very sad when I heard them say âWE DONT WANT SO MANY HORDE TO USE WMâ.
When they offer bribes (the tallent and xp/rep bonus) to get people to use a system, then ofc they will use it. Especially when thereâs safety in numbers.
WM is hot trash, the only good thing was that it allowed people that are accidentally or otherwise stuck on a PvP server to play the game without the worry and/or annoyance of being engaged in battle when they really didnât want to.
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Clearly shows there is no Horde bias. Quite the opposite.
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Maybe it would have been better to simply leave things the way they were? I never engaged much in wPvP before yet I played on a PvP server, and apart from getting ganked every now and then, it was perfectly fine, as at times it was the reverse scenario. If itâs about server faction imbalance, well then their sharding technology is not that reliable anyways.
They cannot enforce certain behaviours in the player base through what are essentially âbribesâ, and expect this to be a sustainable solution.
Iâm getting so damn triggered by all these alliance people acting like we had this coming haha.
I might have to stop going on the forums for a while, iâm gonna lose my mind reading these kindergarden logics from them.
Itâs like nothing matters as long as they get their reward for free and when someone complains they laugh in their face, itâs such a scummy attitude.
It was literally even when the expansion started and alliance chose to turn wm off, how is that hordes fault.
I understand some of them were ganked by horde at flightpoints etc and they have some sort of grudge against us now but do you really think it was a huge portion of horde that was doing that?
Why do you not want fairness because you had a bad time a few times?
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aye, if your response to unfairness was unfairness, then that just proves your as bad if not worse than those that were unfair to you. Plus the horde werent rewarded for their unfairness⌠kind of makes you worse then.
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I mean tbhâŚhow are you meant to balance out WM if there is simply more horde than alliance in a handful of shards? no matter how much you re-jig, juggle them about you always have too many soâŚand then this comes back to the point of the reality of the situation initially was that horde dominated WM due to people starting to realise âhey, free 10% AP. I want inâ and dropping the alliance into an even deeper rabbit hole which digs even deeper by the people who were already suffering on ally side playing WM, just turning it off entirley.
edit: as it was, faction imbalance started cause obviously horde had to have the BEST racials for PVE & PVP ![:ok_hand:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/ok_hand.png?v=6" ":ok_hand:")
its there to promote alliance to play 1v10 :))
I get it horde is enjoying easy 10% buff and all that but, it cant last forever.
gotta balance things and compensate people when they play 1v10.
I highly doubt the hordies turning WM on just for the extra benefits when they quest were causing these issues and camping flightpoints etc.
There will always be crappy people who enjoy grouping up and camp certain spots, but why should a whole faction get the shaft reward wise because there is a portion of them doing these crappy methods that make alliance turn it off.
Iâm not saying itâs a good system, they should just give conquest and honor rewards for having WM on, or have the armor piece as a extra special reward for having WM active for a certain ammount of days.
This current system isnât helping anything, it is just causing everyone to argue and hate on eachother.
You canât punish people just because they chose to play in the faction they like, most people donât even think about racials they just want to play what they think looks cool.