We going back to orc?

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Hello,

The PVP trinket bonus reducing all CC by 15% was a “soft nerf” of the Orc racial, so that people could play more races than before.

However, after the removal of this bonus, and baseline nerf of all CC durations instead, do you guys see another “orc meta”?

The longer stun in the game (pala/rogue) is currently 5 sec → 4 sec on orc
The standard stun in the game (for 90% of specs now) is 3 sec → 2.4 sec for orc

In general, the longer stuns last, the stronger the Orc racial is. So one could argue that the baseline reduction of stun durations makes the Orc racial weaker than before

Currently on live, Kidney shot lasts 5.1 sec on me as a nelf (15% down from 6 sec)
On the 10.1 PTR it is 5 sec exactly (5sec baseline, no reduction)

So to me, currently going back to orc seems unappealing still.

What are your thoughts?

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i hope they disable racials in pvp, and you can play the race you want :smiley:

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This is so bad for the game, if they don’t fix this, I’ll never go back to WoW. This is unfair for every class that can’t be an Orc and every player who doesn’t like the aesthetic

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They need to remove the racial from the game and give it something different. We had this exact same issue in classic with orcs just straight up ignoring CC 30% of the time. No thanks. It is literally the biggest thing that puts me off playing vanilla. An orc meta. Same applies here.

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All they do is to rework those racials which makes certain race mandatory, end of story.

Racials shoud offer people spice how to play, but when they are must have to stay competitive, than we have issues.

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good thing about orc is they have very fluid animations and most transmog looks good on them, so it’s a W for me

(gotta look on the bright side)

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Pls do this in more then just pvp.

Racials in the format WoW has them, isnt cool, it isnt fun and theres 0 flavor.

Most of them are just random passives that cause a performance difference, and sure they are only 1-2k difference. But why does it need to be a thing.

If they rly wanna unlock all races to all classes, they need to deal witb the factor some races like vulpera are like 5k dps loss just to play.

Make racial flavor, through cosmetics and gimmicks which make sense for the race, not by randomly making it alittle better then others in weird ways.

They shown they can manage it.

Dark iron dwarves mole machine.
Nightbornes arcane mailboxes.
Vulperas caravan.
Dracthyrs dragon flying
Undeads corpse eating

Are all cool racial ideas which fit the lore without impeding on any disparity in any content.

I feel like blizzard think “More minmax! More fun!” And it isnt true. People just wanna think their characters look awesome.

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i mean i like goblin for those reasons

apparently holinka said they going to change orc racial

it still wont affect meld or will of the forsaken tho

i think it would be about time people could be let play what race they want on a mmorpg, its been 18 years for racials have too big effects

arent their whole stand on 2023 about diversity or something like that :joy:

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I identify as Night Elf. Give me Shadowmeld now!

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i want night elf for druid, goblin rogue/hunter, orc shaman, troll mage, dark iron/ud lock

everything else on racials is fine but the goblins :japanese_goblin:

sneak animation of goblin and the fact they sound like jersey shore girl or danny devito alone make it for me

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Racials change +1, tbh Evoker racial sucks.

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i hope they ll nerf hardiness to be like 10% max, so is strong but not meta, i dont wanna play a season with green boy again!

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priests are already green boy and its weird :joy:

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