saying that you want item progression is not the same as saying you hate doing dungeons and only do it to +ilvl…
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Correct, and that´s why I say if people´s statements are to be taken at face value, because we have both the rational faction that formulates it as you do, and the muppets that open new whinethreads daily about not beiong able to quit despite being bored because they´re still gearing up and therefore regularly demand, among others things, the most diverse guaranteed loot systems.
And the latter may be well advised to reconsider their motivations IMO, because it’s not usually particularly beneficial to one´s mental health to repeatedly subject yourself to something you by your own admission don´t want to continue doing, just to reach an arbitrary goal that nobody but yourself set for you… there is no “You have now beaten the game by achieving max item level” requirement to quit and come back 3 months later (or not at all should one so decide) … it merely requires pressing “exit game” in the menu. 
DF fated season really spoiled people, it better never existed.
Imo, Rng is rng as far it is same for everyone, meaning noone has programmed better rng than other people.
I would never play rng based game if rng would frustrate me this much.
so they say and so you claim. i do however believe in the curse.
Why they implemented bad luck protection for BRD but then ignored it for everything else is a bit strange. Would be nice to have it for all the activities tbh.
Maps in delves need to drop more often as well, maybe 1 guaranteed a week at least? I dunno, different topic tbh.
think it was because its a timed event. but ye should be in other forms of content aswell imo.
You’re getting heroic level for next to nothing… just be happy with that?
heroic level is useless garbage. outside niche trinkets.
Oh yes, because 12 itemlevels is a hypermassive power jump that´s absolutely essential to accomplish anything in teh game…
That´s why nobody was able to clear Mythic until we had 8 resets for M+ vault drops so they finally had good enough gear. 
What content are you doing… M raids?
Clearly not, because
Which then makes it all the much more laughable that easy heroic gear is snubbed as being
I have a strong guess what this player´s primary (if not only) form of content is and why, but I´m not interested in the pissing and E-peening match that will inevitably ensue if i´m right.
m+ obviously, havent you red the thread?
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You are trying to frame a Great Vault problem as strictly a m+ problem, and are making “enemies” in the thread where there need not be.
The whole problem would have been fixed with a token that costs 12 tokens of merit that does “convert a fully upgraded m+/open world item to a higher track”. This would just convert for example a 626 (6/6) hero track item to a 626 (2/6) myth track item.
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No matter what! They need to whipe all M+ och raid system and it is getting OLD! It is time to change to anything fun instead of stupid cap crest, lock out, blabla…
That is simply not true. Blizzard has implemented deterministic ways of gearing up, and/or ways to get other cosmetics. Tokens. All those 1000s of currencies you got in your bag, those are all deterministic ways to acquire things.
The problem is that the devs are 100% correct. It is horrible for the game if you can acquire everything you want in 3 days. You need a way to gate things because otherwise we (the players) will simply no-life the game for 1 week, get everything and stop playing. And for those that don’t do it, they will be at a serious disadvantage and it will hurt them too.
So they got 3 options realistically:
- RNG
- Hard timegate
- Tokens
Every time they hard timegate things people go bananas. Like with WW launch. And every time they put tokens people also go bananas because they always complain that they cant get what they want in 1 week (WoW anniversary and Guilded Crest key level being the most recent examples).
So you are left with RNG. The only thing people understand and are capable of simply “living with it” instead of complaining like snowflake whiners.
Basically… its been RNG for ever not because of blizzard, but because of the players.
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This.
So much this.
People are driving this themselves and they don’t even realize it.
The 20 year anniversary event was the prime example: It launched, and the forum was littered with post on how you couldn’t get anything in the first week and were forced to just play the game.
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Yep, so much in fact that Bronze acquisition was buffed, with the result that everybody and their mother got everything in week 2 and the event is now basically dead and people are either a: complaining about needing 45 minutes to get into a BFD LFR grp or B. complaining about how boring and low effort the event is.
Funny how it wasn´ßt boring and low effort while people still had rewards to grind, eh?
(except Chromie´s Codex , I don´t know what exactly they were going for, but I don´t think they accomplished it… 
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We don’t talk about that one 
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Understandable…
But, as someone who works in this space myself, this situation really just enrages me on some level… I´m really glad I don’t work at Blizzard right now, and especially not on this event
You see, You spend months and months designing an event, revamping an old raid, creating a new timewalking tier (classic), spend countless hours of artist and modeler time revamping beloved old sets and adding in completely new items, add in new events, expand the scope of existing quests and events, and design the whole thing to comfortably last a few months alongside the currently still running season.
And after 1 week, all of your effort were basically for nothing and is being shat on, becuase higher ups caved and gave everything away week 2, resulting in even the players like myself not really coming by any more except to pick up the weekly BRD q on alts. People that would have loved to make it a weekly thing to do 1-2-3 activities and reminisce /llisten to stories /laugh at some of the hilarious mogs people come up with… But at this point, I´m only waiting for the TW badge containers to become stackable so it doesn´t take hours to purchase them
The only content that hasnt been cleared or acquired by what feels like the vast majority if the heroic version of BRD. And it seems to be that most people don´t really care about even attempting it…
Really just saddening to see teh even “thrown away” like this… 
As a fellow game dev, I feel you.
But not all gamers are like this.
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