But those are not the kind of questions we’re asking. We are asking, in a way, logical questions. It doesn’t make sense why Yrel suddenly starts genociding Orcs because a Naaru suggests her to do so, and it even makes less sense to assume that a Naaru actually suggested that. It makes no sense to think that the Horde was able to move war machines through Darkshore in a few weeks, while Darkshore is still a broken land.
These are just things that contradict things we know. Sometimes, you just need to assume something to make it interesting. And that’s fine. But if the lore is riddled with all these small inconsistencies, with all those questions you’d ask yourself, it suddenly makes it less interesting. I take the lore very serious, and I want to make sure I understand as much as I can, but if Blizzard is constantly making up things that just make no sense, or are completely the opposite of what has been told in the past… wel, what’s there to like then?
No, Blizzard’s lore has never been this bad. We are talking about the Horde which is being turned evil, without any nuances, we are talking about the War of the Thorns which is strategically impossible, yet somehow the Horde won, we are talking about the Siege of Lordaeron which was lost if not for Jaina to miraculously appear to save the day (if only the Alliance brought gas masks to a battle with someone who was known to be using chemical weapons)
There is actually a great thread, one of the bests posts I have ever read about how inconsistent the Mag’har scenario was --and this guy even links all of his sources with all the details possible.
Neither is there “more lore”. I am not sure how I should read that, but by just skimming the three Chronicles, you notice that there is so much more to the lore than what we see in World of Warcraft. If you play Warcraft III, you already notice that there is much more nuance, much better motives and much more interesting storylines than we can see right now. And it all made sense! It makes sense for Cairne and Vol’jin to join Thrall’s Horde, even for the Forsaken, while it makes no sense for the Highmountain Tauren to join a faction that is being lead by the leader of the Undead, who are rampaging through the world with the Blight. It made sense for the Horde, the Human Expedition and the Night Elf Sentinels to join forces against the Burning Legion at the end of the Third War, but it made no sense for the Horde and the Alliance to be driven apart again after fighting Sargeras, over a mineral.
There have always been inconsistencies in the lore, I am not denying that. The Eredar comes to mind (completely retconned in TBC). But once one of the directors starts talking about how continuity is inferior to the creativity of the writers, and how he talks about Azeroth being a world of grey, having Sylvanas burning down Teldrassil with hundreds, no thousands of innocent Night Elves burning to crisps, don’t you start asking yourself what is going on?
We’ve been past the point where we ask for clarification. Actually, we have done so many, many times, but the questions won’t be answered. Instead, Blizzard tells us to wait just a little longer. But even the coming patches won’t fix what Blizzard has created. The faction war remains artificial, Sylvanas’ story can hardly be salvaged, and the numerous inconsistencies we have seen will remain.
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That is true, but we see nothing of that back in Darkshore.
Also true, but it is quite weird how he avoided any contact within Felwood and how the heavy equipment reach the other side of the river if not through Felwood.
No, that is quite true. Blizzard has been known for just making stuff happen if they want it to be so.
Which is odd, because the High King is nothing else but a supreme commander of the forces.
You are right here, but those flaws aren’t really moral flaws, which would give his character more depth. Those were the ones I was more talking about.
(I don’t have a lot of problems with it either, but I decided to mention it because it has been discussed a few times, and some people really want their race to be represented as well).
He’s basically displayed as a senile old king who is unable to hold his kingdom together. So long for the ruler of what once was one of the greatest empires of Azeroth.
Certainly true. However, the Alliance War Campaign makes more sense, specifically the first part (I haven’t made myself familiar with the 8.1 added part yet).
I don’t blame him for that, but a lot of players, including me, are frustrated with him showing no action. We want someone to stand up against Sylvanas, not hide in the swamp with his new Troll friend. But this is more of a personal opinion.
I like that too, but Blizzard could have brought it a bit better (see my previous point). I btw sided with Saurfang, but I would’ve wanted to see him doing more.
It certainly doesn’t, I hope Baine stands up against Sylvanas soon. Perhaps with Saurfang.
I’ll give you that one.
Yep, they made that a bit clear with the questline too (about how they can never return to Draenor again). But it could’ve been so much better.
Oh Hala, you don’t disappoint me. 