Saw that i would get a reward for doing the dungeon finder as a tank, so i queued up.
As soon as the dungeon started all looked well, it was Nokhud Offensive, so i flew off to the first target.
Suddenly i saw that the paladin healer rushed off to pull everything in sight, i thought “welp ok, it’s you healing throughout this so let’s go then”
Then the boss dropped in and he started to tank the boss taunting it away from me eveytime, and i noticed he didn’t heal the other players?
Boss died, we went to the lightning bit with the totems, then he proceeded to pull as much as he can, killing the other players in the process because lack of healing.
Voted to remove the offending player and replace it with an actual healer instead, the moment i pressed enter with the votekick it passed, as i could only imagine the other players getting frustrated with this behaviour?
Five second after the kick i get this message from that paladin of Tarren Mill. Sorry, i didn’t mean to hurt your ego?
So, you act like a donkey and then get kicked for your poor behaviour and need to message me about my ego?
Don’t make me laugh please.
But we really need to lock roles in dungeon finder, it’s already being enforced in Mythic+ and i see no reason to not implement it in the finder?
I kinda agree. But there have been runs where the healer or tank dissaperes and sometimes one of the dps will switch in to that required role until a new one appears. So locking them could cause issues
Dear God, one bad experience and you lot just clamour for restrictions to take away choice etc because you’re too fragile to communicate in game.
“Hey, please don’t pull like that you’re killing people / you can off heal as prot, we know you’re geared but don’t run it for others” etc could have potentially solved the issue.
Later in the expac geared dps can heal dungeons, dps can tank them and so on. But no, one bad example and the library monitors come out screeching.
Given it’s literally possible to solo dungeons with a decent iLevel, as long as the dungeon finished and you got what you were looking for, does it matter?
Love the attitude, what made you think i didn’t tell him to please switch to the queued role?
You see the whisper i got should’ve told you more than enough about that person, but it seems acting all oblivious is the way to go?
This never worked out decently in random dungeon finder, mostly it’s about high item level players wanting to show off how great they are because they can pull the whole dungeon in one go without dying.
Not taking into consideration how other players feel about that when they are dying every three steps they take.
I mean if you got a full group of high item level players then i’d guess you can go right ahead, but this is not the case most of the time.
It’s not fun for players to die every three seconds because you want to show off how good you are?
Why not just go to the dungeon and solo it by yourself then?
I told him he shouldn’t, he just ignored my questions and that’s why he got removed, he didn’t respec to what he queued for.
I disagree, don’t take away player choice. Plenty of specs have the ability to keep the group alive with off-healing. For cases like these there is the vote-kick tool which you used well.
true enough, just look at what happens in M+ from time to time, holding keys hostage and whatnot.
That is my fault, should’ve mentioned that.
I normally ask players a few good times before resorting to the last method, it al depends on the answer / attitude that comes with it.
Last time I used group finder on a hybrid class (I usually play hunter, so I simply can’t select healer or tank), if I choose a role such as heal or tank, it auto changed my spec, does this still happen?
There should be a similar Vote to allow a player to change roles. So that paladin would be forced into Holy spec upon entering the dungeon and if he tried to switch spec it would pop up a vote dialog and the group would have to Accept his actions.
This way if a Tank leaves and someone has a tank off spec they can switch into it if they the group agrees.
Like people said, sometimes if a tank leaves someone might respec to a tank because waiting for a tank can take long (especially if it’s during times when there aren’t many people online).
Also I used to run TW as prot and then ret healer on my paladin. Yes the hybrid taxes made it harder to do but it’s mostly a question of if everyone just outgear the content and you just feel useless because there’s nobody to heal then you go DPS spec. Once I tanked a dungeon and we had a level 10 DPS twink that oneshot most stuff and I couldn’t even hold threat so I switched to DPS spec.
I’m not denying there are the occasional people who don’t want to play their role but this is what the kick option is for. No need to overcomplicate stuff because someone had one bad experience.
There are cases when I queue for random HC as a healer to get extra cache, but I usually just go as elemental spec with specced into some heqling stuff on class tree. By doing a lot of damage I prevent most of the damage that would come. In case someone gets hit - I just surge once or twice. Never had a problem healing heroic dungeon as a elemental shaman (445ilvl atm).
So in my case locking me into resto would not be logical. Instead I can go as a hybrid.
