Yep. But most people don’t have a dime of honesty to admit why they do something, and their insatiable greed never stops to ask for more and more advantages.
Look at the most populated 4 realms on EU retail currently:
| # |
Realm |
Type |
Lang |
Score |
Population* |
Horde* |
Alliance* |
| 1 |
Draenor |
PvE |
en |
750000.00 |
25246 |
25091 |
155 |
| 1 |
Kazzak |
PvP |
en |
750000.00 |
21977 |
21719 |
258 |
| 1 |
Connected Tarren Mill |
PvP |
en |
750000.00 |
20043 |
19948 |
95 |
| 1 |
Twisting Nether |
PvP |
en |
750000.00 |
19704 |
19679 |
25 |
Horde has 99.99999999999999999999999999999999% of all players total. I’m sure all those players picked horde because they like the looks lulw.
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You guys must be trolls.
" Hey you got better racial even if you picked a Horde char for other reasons so wait 30 minutes of your Lifetime in a City before you can play."
Farming? Oh, yes you can move 15 minutes to a farm Spot, but after you did the BG you will Spawn in City again.
Come on, how does it increase your personal game Experience when the Other fraction has 30-min Queue times? Right it doesn’t. You just like that other People can’t have fun. Since with TBC in arena the own fraction can fight each other why not inside the BG also? Or at least merc mode.
Oh! And when more Players play Horde shouldn’t it be crucial to make their game enjoyment better because its hm more people which suffer?
At all i see for the average Player base just benefits.
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You don’t get it it’s a two faction game the queue is 30 mins for horde because the sheer amount of horde players queuing Vs Allience there is an easy solution already available play Allience.
Why should Allience have their queue times increased with Merc mode? It’s not their fault so many people rolled horde to get better racials.
Allience They are already suffering being out numbered in all aspects of the game, out in the world with weaker racials why don’t we just delete the Allience faction completely and be done with it because you want to cater for the horde then just make world PvP where everyone can attack anyone.
Arena is not the same as bgs as it works off a rated system if that was faction specific matchmaking would be horrible.
There is nothing wrong with the queuing system deal with it.
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So you literally have no arguments beside " my queue times get bigger" And you have better racial so pay for it? even if this isnt true for all horde chars? But you choosed Dwarf priest for sure cuz how he looks in Classic now cuz of his anti fear? You are just a troll nothing else Merc mode means the player which use it have to accept to play without this mighty overpowered racials. So they even with you. Queue times longer? i doubt it even in retail the queue times didnt change for alliance after merc mode did come in because not all horde players will use it alot will be happy when they hit the 10 min queue time instead of the actuall 30-60min and increasing.
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All I heard was waahhh I have long queue times make change to the game to benefit me I know I have advantage but I want more plz make Allience suffer because I want big racials.
It’s not just the racials that’s the problem it’s the reason why so many of you zombies rolled horde to get an easier time you can’t have your cake and eat it
you have better performing racials for PvP it’s a fact sorry to burst your bubble and I find it funny you use dwarf priest as an arguement when the undead priest is much better than dwarf priest you get extra dot and a fear immunity which can’t be dispelled and can use when actually feared.
Merc mode will certainly increase the queue times for allience.look at the amount of PvP servers that are horde dominated asking for Merc mode is a kick in the teeth for every Allience player who has endured being outnumbered everywhere they go.
Hard no on Merc mode enjoy your queue.
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You guys keep bringing up overpopulated factions, when in reality the disparity is 48/52%. not 60/40, 70/30, or 90%+ as some of you guys are talking about.
Then again you’re playing dwarf priest, definitely not because of min/max right? Is ignoring & overlooking arguments all you can do?
The mentality of some people “Well I don’t have a problem so why care? let everyone else suffer” is mind-blowing. Nothing will hurt your game experience here in a single bit, except for those “oh my que times might increase by 3-4mins”. Why not just state right away that it’s your queue times you care about and not caring about the higher % playerbase? So you can’t accept a 2min higher queue time in exchange for reducing the que time for the larger playerbase by 50 minutes?
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I also play night elf warrior what’s your point? And even if I was min/maxing on Allience side it’s not the min/max for PvP otherwise I would have rolled undead priest.
No I won’t accept a longer queue time because I’m disadvantaged in many areas just for playing Allience and we suffer you don’t understand how it feels to play an Allience rogue for example trying to stun a orc warrior with 45% stun resist or a priest or warlock who has an undead rogue on you and your only emergency cc fear gets completely countered instantly by a racial.
it’s not our fault so many of you min/max PvP and I don’t want hordes in my team defeats the point of having two factions
It sucks to be stuck in the queue for hordes that’s why I support horde to Allience transfers to balance the game you on the other hand just want Allience to get shafted
Merc mode is the worst possible solution to a problem that you created yourself.
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So your solution to alliance players not queuing for pvp resulting in 50min queue times is to roll aliance?
And yes I fairly sure do, my first main was a 60 nightelf rogue on classic release, who cares?
Don’t be such a hypocrite, because the way you let it sound is it benefits you. I’d always give up 2mins queue times if it’d result in 40mins less queue just because alliance players dont wan’t to queue because they get so much more honor due to having 1/10 of queue times.
How does having horde to Allience transfers benefit my queue time in PvP? I already said I support that.
I would honestly be happy if they forced a 50/50 faction balance on every realm and removed racials altogether then I wouldn’t mind waiting in a longer queue but when you have all the advantages and expect to make a weaker/smaller faction to take the hit and wait in longer queue I do not agree with that you made your choice knowing horde was the dominant faction in PvP due to stronger racials is it a big suprise to you that more pvpers are playing horde you knew what you were getting into.
If you want a short queue now is the time to re-roll back to Allience otherwise suck it up. Why did you roll horde if you had a night elf main let me guess you rolled an orc or undead for PvP.
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i joined a Horde server which had to beginning 52% allis befor Bg´s was out and they did make cross realm bg´s. Oh and my Server even did then change slowly to 90% alli and Open PvP i got ganked nonstop while i still had to pay the Queue times of Horde 
That does suck but your experience is the same for many Allience players as most the PvP servers have a horde majority as well as almost an entire expansion of unbalanced av where you lose 99% of the time because of the map.you still at least have your strong racials to give you an edge when you finally joined that BG
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The problem is Blizz do not see that as an issue that matters in TBCC.
The only pvp content that matters for them there is arena and faction do not matters there as most matches will be Horde vs Horde. It is like retail.
They do not care about non rated pvp / random bg pvp. BC and arena was when they tried the e-sport thing. It is better content for marketing as well (“content creators”).
My guess is they want to push as much pvp players as possible into pillar hugging simulator arena. That is why they won’t fix anything bg related.
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Lies, no sane person likes mudhuts.
It wasnt instant for me during Classic at all, it isnt on retail either. We actually had 40-50 minutes of queues back then, 20 minutes + on retail now.
I also disagree that Horde racials are superior. The human racial is super powerful, fearward is as well. WOTF with diminishing returns lost its value, the stun resist for orcs is not bad, but NEs have shadowmeld and dodge.
Lots of ally players just dont use the racials correctly, as they require more skill than those of the horde.
That so many play Horde is simply due the fact that bloodelfs exist, thats why Horde queues went up and Ally down. This was the total opposite at Vanilla, racials play no part in this.
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Pls don’t try to use “if I have to stare at something I prefer a girl”.
It’s cringe
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40 minute queues as Allaince in Classic? What? When was that? Literally never had to wait longer than 8 minutes and even that was just because I queued AV in the middle of the night and there weren’t even 40 players in the queue to make a team.
Wait 1 more classic expansion and you’ll see the problem do a full uno reverse card with the introduction of “Every Man For Himself”.
Back when? Are you talking about classic or retail? I’ve played classic since launch and i’ve never sat in queue for more than 10 minutes.
Against two classes.
Still a free trinket against fears.
DODGE?!? You can’t be serious. Trying to justify 1% dodge with 15% stun resist?
Not to be that guy but your last logged raid on that warrior was back in january, you had nowhere near full t3 and were using Iblis with warblade off-hand. Why not Ravencrest’s Legacy if you’re scarab lorde?
People dismiss this because they’re insecure - but literally models + animations. This doesn’t mean that every man ogles the pixels they play.
Compare a human male model in a robe vs a human female. Like to me this isn’t even a contest - if there was a human male model that was more slender and had a more appropriate physique for a spell caster then I’d consider it. As it is, playing a Priest as some roid monster? yeah no thanks.