We need to do something about bg queue times in TBC

Back in Vanilla, populations were a lot more even.

90% of alliance gave up on “landscape PvP” the second they chose their faciton, as horde should when they chose their faction. Blame the min-maxers and deal with it.

Nah they are bus drivers

Deal with it? I should just quit the game since it’s impossible to do BGs? Why though, when Blizzard can introduce transfer from Horde to Alliance?

Give me some arguments why this would be a bad thing. Or shut up.

Yet it doesn’t. Goeey babies like you neither add anything to the game nor benefit the company financially. You cry until you get something you want and then quit the game after 2 months. Retail is the living example of this. It has only babies like you left playing which is like 5% of the entire wow community, the rest are long gone. Try retail. You can swipe your credit card as much as you want there.

And I didn’t say it is good for the game.
Opening a 1-way xfer from horde to alliance won’t fix faction imbalance for good. Horde players(myself included) know very well that they are playing the stronger faction and will not transfer. Also it has no financial benefits for blizzard whatsoever, so there is not even a 1% possibility that they will implement a 1-way faction transfer if they accept to allow faction transfers.
It will most likely be a 2-way PAID faction transfer service, which makes them money. And this will make the faction imbalance much, much worse. Most alliance players are staying on alliance currently ONLY because of the investment they put into their characters. Open the flood doors and you will have them all transferring to horde.

You are summoning a demon that you have no idea of.

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wasnt your point that horde is superior because alliance are all 40 year olds that play female nightelf?
what about bloodelfs and the fact that roughly half of the horde population will eventually end up being bloodelfs if it follows the same trend like retail.

enjoy your bloodelfs.

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It would improve the situation for many players. It would reduce queue times. It would save them subs, it would give them money for the service.

People like you are the reason they won’t add it… We are not asking for a 2-way transfer. If you want to argue, stick to the subject.

We still have less creeps, and if I want I can play classic era too.

New issue?

This has been a problem since day ONE and 2 years later Blizzard have done NOTHING to rectify realms that have completely died or are massively horde-imbalanced

Why do you get any impression they’ll do anything about it now?

because they said tbc will be “some changes”
but as always, blizzards lack of communication just leaves a lot of room for speculation what that could mean.

If the population imbalance is greater now than original TBC, its a new issue. I don’t get the impression they will do anything about it… But I am asking them to. Open up faction transfer to the less populated faction… Faction changes happened in 2009, so they did something. You had the choice to transfer to the faction with the fastest queues.

They haven’t even fixed retail realms that are faction dominated, they just put sharding in so it doesn’t even matter.

They will never fix faction imbalance. If they do, I’ll buy a hat and eat it.

Faction imbalance is a bigger issue in classic, we need something. They have solutions, they just need to add them. And 1-way faction change is a simple solution that already exist

To be fair in my opnion, having a Faction change should not be an issue for anyone. Not everyone care about Min/Maxing and some people are playing orc/Undead because they just like it or for the fantasy aswell (i did Undead because BE was not avaiable yet). I am not saying that there are not people trying to min/max with racials but that NOT EVERYONE is doing that.
I play Undead Warlock and i’ve been horde for over 12 years? I did Horde aswell just because i have zero experience of levelling on Alliance side ( did 1 ally on retail just with Dungeons ) and because i didn’t really knew about Queue times ( my bad since i haven’t read before levelling ). In my case for example i don’t care about Min/Maxing on TBC since i am a retail player and i do Min/max for Mythic raiding there. I just play TBC to have fun doing some PVP in BG’s, Arena casually and for me would not be an issue to pay 15/20/25 euro to go alliance. Yes i might go raiding Karazhan but let’s be real, you don’t need to min max for a karazhan, Grull or whatever.

That’s my opinion and please, be respectful. Everyone has bad days at work, home, real life issue, let’s do not make issue even on a forum for a videogame.

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Yes it is a solution. You want faster queues? Join the underdog faction and even out the numbers.
It is your choice, make it and deal with the consequences.

NO. 2 Factions. At WAR. They DONT play together. This is not a Battle Arena MOBA Game. This is an MMORPG

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They’re not going to do it - and if they do, they won’t control it, which is part of the problem with transfers. Currently you can freely transfer wherever you want, further contributing to faction imbalance.

They’d just freely allow people to switch, even it makes a server go to 70-30, 80-20 or worse. And that’s still no good for anyone.

It creates many issues within the game.

  1. It removes the RPG aspect of being an MMORPG and it’s war theme. You are a tauren today murdering hundreds of gnomes, you then are a gnome tomorrow. Somehow! It removes the immersion element.
  2. It removes faction pride and identification with your character. You are not a TAUREN warrior, you are just a warrior. You are lok’tar ogar today and king’s honor friend tomorrow. You are a tauren when you want to tank, then a human next week to do more dps, then back as an orc the other week. It makes the game dull and soulless.
  3. It promotes or allows bad behavior. You can ninja all the loot in a raid, then faction transfer and get away with it. Then a month later you ninja all the loot, harrass people on the other faction, then swap factions once again since most people will have forgotten what you did before. The charm of classic wow is that YOU HAVE A NAME, a reputation within your server and within your faction.

You can’t tell me that 60% of horde players want to look like a corpse with bones sticking out from their cloaks and ankles and just play it for the looks. Night elf females look 100 times better than human females on the alliance faction but for some reason it is a miracle to see a night elf rogue while almost all rogues are human rogues.
Not everyone but MOST players try to minmax. This is the honest truth. They want to perform better. They want to win pvp fights. I won many, many pvp fights because of being able to cancel fear from a warlock or priest. It makes a massive, massive, massive and MASSIVE difference.

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Impossible :slight_smile: Maybe go out into the world and farm some like you actually can compared to ally

1.It only removes the RPG aspect of those who do it. You don’t have to do it, and those who care about the RPG experience won’t do it. Unless you ask the player, you will not find out if they have transferred or not. The only RP server is dead on classic, shows how many people that really cares about it. Compare that to the massive amount who has to endure these long BG queues.

2.Only if you care about faction pride, if you do care about it don’t transfer.

3.It will be a payed service, if someone think its worth ninja looting to then pay for a transfer they can do it once and will then be stuck on alliance. It will be such a small number of players I find it funny you even mentioning it.

Your arguments are so weak its actually funny. Now do you want the faction imbalance to get as bad as it is in retail? It’s getting there.

If someone ninja the raid and then faction change, there is a bigger issue.
There is no faction pride or identification of your character if as you said, people are running horde just because of better racials, basically mean that in WOTLK everyone will go alliance then, i understand your point but its 2021 and there is no way to have a classic experience because people are getting older / they don’t have time to play WoW All day long (that’s why retail has so many players) + billions of addons and WoWhead always up to date. Remember that during the release of classic WoW was the NEW MMORPG, the first open world with real time chatting, dungeons, social interaction and 3d characters, all of this INSIDE a game. Right now it’s nothing new, not everyone care about their character at all and following what you said, tomorrow you are Warlock, the day after you are mage because is FOTM (that’s an example). Old vanilla you had people in chat writing and asking for help to do an harder quest, today you have people selling maraudon boosts and gold. We are not in the 23 November of 2004. We are in the 2021 and all this epicness is gone long time ago because at that time, it was a new game, you didn’t have billions of online guides unless you decided to buy some books (IRL WoW books) and people were in the guild without expecting any kind of ENDGAME world first or realm first. Now people expect something else, and just to conclude this discussion, back in 2004 if you truly have played it, people were not min maxing, we were not even talking about the racials at all.

Your classic experience is gone the moment your guild decided to start using Weak auras, addons, DBM, Tell me when and macros, oh yea zygor also.

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