Blizzard will you do anything about this topic?
The que system is everything but ok, at the moment it is a nightmare for us that solo que.
16/17 has been against 10 man premades. please make separate ques for 10 man and have one for 1-5 players and make it not possible to que 6-9 players.
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5 ppl queuing together can farm 10 solo queuers just as easily as 10 can. But if you want to do wsg, why do you insist on doing solo queue? Why not just join a premade?
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Because hes lazy and demands stuff be given to him on a silver plate.
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bumping for visibility
that is exactly why
16/17? we can´t have that. Gotta be 100% pug vs. premade to really get more tears going here.
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That’s what most people do in premade groups, everything is handed to them on a silver plate right now due to facing 99% PUGS at all times.
Doing premade now is not hard, it’s lazy and the most efficient way to farm that honor and rep as it’s now, but it’s not skilled nor hard to do that. Premade need to face other premade only, period.
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This makes LITERALLY no sense whatsoever.
Yup. Oh no ppl play together in multiplayer game why cant I win playing solo 
Should there be seperate ques? Yes but all of you who still play solo and cry about it are mad crazy. You put yourself on disadventage on purpose and its your fault. Next time go solo dungeon and cry that you cannot kill the Boss as ez as with 5man grp.
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Someone doesn’t understand how the solo queue works apparently. Yes you are joining solo but once a BG is found you join 9 other players in a multiplayer match against 10 other enemy players. That’s to my knowledge not solo.
We won’t be putting ourselves into a disadvantage because it’s fair from both sides if they address this issue, PUG vs PUG = fair and premade vs premade = fair.
Blizzard should have limited reputation to WSG until Honored, this would have limited this toxic premade frenzy of players only eager to rush reputation and honor in the simplest way possible.
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I never played in a premade but i’m against such stupid ideas. Its not so bad as you say maybe every 3 to 4 games you face a premade, thats okay imo. People really saying like you face 9 out of 10 games against premade is straight up lieing. Its more like 30 % of games i played was vs premade and of them we lose like 90% of the time. And im on 8000/21000 rep and played alot of games.
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It’s a roll of the dice. Maybe I’ll make a spreadsheet.
When it’s occurring enough times to make it a big issue like it’s for many people and forcing them to quit BG’s then I’d say it’s a big deal and in the end premade groups will be the ones crying on the forums due to super long queues.
the thing is many players are just abysmal. most premades are garbage, you have a fighting chance against them if you have a semi competent fc on your team and a few hunters or priests . The real issue that makes premades strong right now is class stacking hunter / priests. Fix hunters and priests in pvp and it will become naturally easier to fight premades.
That’s the thing isn’t it, we can’t decide who joins our team as a PUG meaning most of the time we are against a premade that already has a perfect team with healers, hunters etc while the PUG team is based on luck if we get that on our side.
Easy solution, premade vs premade & pug vs pug is equal challenge and fairness.
the thing is, if classes are more balanced between each other, you are much more likely that your random group of pugs is similar in strength to the premade they are fighting. I often solo Q as an FC, hard carrying the pugs in my team. and I do end up winning games against, premade, in all of those games we had at least 2 hunters and a priest.
100% agree but until they fix it (if cause we had they same problem in the past and they didnt) you need to Play premades if you want to win. If you dont even try to play premades dont be so mad about loosing all the time. You click the join button knowing you gonna lose as solo player. And why ppl are so against premades? Not premades as premades vs randoms but whole idea? Isn’t it MMO game that revolves around group Play?
They won´t and should not do this, but if they do, what´s next? You people would start crying about gear differences or group compositions, like "OH, dont allow people over x gs or make it so that only 1 priest can be in each group.
Pathetic little wrenches you guys are.
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You can win in a PUG vs PUG game just like in a premade vs premade match up.
We are not complaining about losing in a fair match up, we are complaining that we are facing premade as PUGS that give literally no chance for the PUG team to win and that we getting GY farmed for honor & rep.
Again this is not true at all. I’ve joined many PUG vs PUG fights, that have provided some of the best BG experiences ever, even if we ended up losing some of them in the end. It’s about having fun, being fair but ultimately it’s up for the better team to win it.
Just because you join as solo does not mean you play in a single player game or with bots lol. You still play with other players, isn’t that a group play? Premade find a group in trade chat and pugs find it automatically in the BG when everyone joins.