Yup thats true.
Paypal open the door for giving out real life info to strangers same with credit cards.
You have no protection with buying items ingame with real life money. So ppl will for sure get scammed if they send real life monrey for items ingame.
Ingame trading with gold is atleast safe beacuse both need to click trade window to make the trade and you can stay anon if you want.
With that being said. It will ofcourse happen outside game. But alot less than gdkp were before it was banned.
No, ban GDKP is awesome.
IF blizzard could handle the Bots and the gold buyers alot better, GDKP would be fine. But since they cant, ban it is the best solution imo.
that is exactly not true. as long as RMT isnt removed first, GDKP protects u more than it hurts u. removing RMT is a long story - i linked that chat a bit up - but taking GDKP out like this is dangerous atm.
Itâs so funny to see all of you making such mental gymnastic to convince yourself that GDKPâs the only good loot system and there is nothing wrong with it x)
Seriously since this announcement, youâre all sounding like wow will be dead in p2 chill out guys⌠youâll just have to farm your own gold now like everyone one else
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last time i gdkpâd was 200âŚ7? vanilla TBC, i sold bearmonuts with my 5 man grp after we did the raids for the evening. maybe we even invented it, i dunno, it didnt exist before that i thinkâŚ
i detest gdkp now tho - i certainly dont want it in teh game.
the problem is that blizzard prohibition will just make the mafia stronger. the only upside to this, is that it made u laugh . thats good atleast.
No we donât. Ban GDKP
No thanks! Get that cancerous infestation that has been ruining WoW for way to long OOOOUUUT!
Look at it this way, in this particular version of wow ok, we are phased leveling and we are being given insane gold rewards at low levels from doing the quests at cap.
This is enough gold, to fund all your consumables etc so u dont even really have to farm. EverâŚ
so you tell me, why is there even a demand to buy gold? if it isnt to just have more gold than someone else to outbid them in GDKP? or buy BoEs for insane gold (probably farmed by bots/gold sellers)
I boo you and your guild. Boooo!
I dont understand the drama about GDKP.
Either we play in guild and GDKP have no impact on us.
Either we play alone and GDKP is a viable option to loot goods items unreachable alone.
In both cases it is not something that bother me.
Even Blizzard seems to not see it as a problem since:
Itâs fair to say that GDKP has some benefits to individuals who donât want to be tied to a guild or set raid schedule. GDKP raids are, while mostly transactional in nature, another social activity in the game, and weâre hesitant to discourage anything that gets people into groups to play together
However, I can see the problem behind GDKP, the real problem, the Goldsellers. And in my opinion it is this particulary problem that Blizzard should fight.
After all, if i play alone, i have many golds but i dont have a guild or enough friends to leave in raid. I could ask to join some raid and offer some golds to be sure to have somme item. It has no effect on oters players.
Personnally i have a guild and i dont need to pay for a item or another. And if some players do it it doenst bother at all. My concerns are all about bots though and even if i report some regularly, i keep seeing some frequently.
So, we need to focus on the real problem, not on some consequences of them. Get rid of bots and we will not have so many GDKP. And if someone still want to pay for un rush dongeon or raid let them spend their money the way they want.
Exactly. I for instance farmed 60 and 52g on 2 toons and thought this was more than enough. Silly me.
GOOD. Much better than inflating ingame economy for those who dont swipe! If you want to pay to finish game faster and complain thereâs nothing to do, do it outside the game
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well.
cracks fingers
did u read all of it? the consequence of that, is that RMT vendors have less whales to sell large sums to. so they can only approch more regular buyers, dadgamers who need raidpots aso.
they sell smaller sums for lower rates, and pretty soon, the price of raidpots has trippled. that DOESaffect u. same goes for crafted stuff, mats aso aso. wanna drop skinning for engi? sure, thats now 1000 gold in mats, and ure an LW as well, so ure not making much of that.
its an economy. capitalism just works that way. meanwhile, the GDKP crowd is off in a play for pay spiral, netting 100 000 euro / year if they go hard, making gambling, duel tornies and dethrolls and everything - ppl start betting big, cause ppl are that dumb. this becomes everything players talk about, the horrorstories of someone who lost 50k on a duel aso. wow gets a rep, players start getting frustrated and game starts dying over that. streamer discuss it endlessly, and blizzard just ends servers and impose some insane rules but, they cant actually handle the problem anymore. nor can other MMOâs once ppl get invested.
and thats before the CC scams aso.
You canât [quote=âKartone-lava-lash, post:50, topic:494676â]
Get rid of bots
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You just cant.
But you can make their lives much harder by banning gdkps - the main way to sell and lounder the gold they farm.
People will still buy gold for their mounts and consumes, but it will only be a fraction of what bots can sell.
There are currently that many bots because there is that much demand for gold. If people stop buying gold it makes bots overpopulated therefore not as profitable making botting not worthwhile for many that currently does that.
Preventing legitimate players who farm hours and hours for single item from gdkp to do that is a small price to pay if it means reducing botting profits overall
thats not how the economy works tho. when the market driver goes, teh price drops, and then the market grows bigger - ie. more buyers spending less to get more gold. inflating the prices everywhere. teh gold has a manufacturingcost very much lower than the salesprice still.
where legit players even doing it tho? not many, if they did. the chance of getting it for the cost of raidpots was better than outbidding an RMT whale for it.
Well thats what i ment, maybe my wording was off. They can sell all the gold sure, but it will be less valuable irl money. Gdkp ban is essentially a try to devalue gold so its not as profitable to run endless bot armies.
When legit player gets a raidpot he contributes to gold loundering, often unknowingly. This is why many say they dont buy gold but still does gdkp, which is fair, but they fail to recognize where that gold comes from. In ideal world with no rmt the pots would be much smaller and other legit farms would be more viable.
On mention of gold buying for gold sinks like riding skill or repairs, it doesnât impact the economy that much because gold is removed from game and not injected into economy
yes, it will b cheaper- couple that with increasing mount cost by 200% and u have an army of dadgamers buying gold for the first time. and the second time they do it, cause it wasnt scary after all⌠they buy mats, pots and gear. and AH inflation take OFF. and the RMT profits stay high.
yes. so the play isnt to ban GDKP first. its to actually kill off the RMT, THEN ban GDKP if u like (at that point, i dont care tbf)
its like buying drugs really - scary first time, and easy after. goldsinks like that are gateways to RMT
Nah, one of the best decisions since a long time.
These things will happen:
There will be less people doing pay2win.
There will be less GDKP runs
The demand of gold will be reduced, therefore less gold will be bought with real money.
GDKP will never get âmetaâ, meaning Pug players wont be forced into spending their time grinding or buying gold to compete for items.
its increasing as we speak.
unless u join the discord where instead of paying a RMT vendor, u just pay on paypal the sum of euros u bid in the raid. which will b the meta.
they will then buy gold for chants, pots, mats and boeâs. and inflate AH.
its like this hasnt happened everywhere in all economies that have tried prohibitions
How you know? GDKP isnt even banned yet. Also its shortly before release, people make themselves ready, get their professions up etc.
Going through this stuff will never be meta, because its way too annoying, and still there is a risk involved. I dont know if you realise the purpose of this kind of regulation, its not to make it absolutely impossible, its to reduce the amount of it happening greatly.
And im sure, a raidchat full of people biding with euros, is surely not a redflag for any admin watching it. Besides, Discords are always open for everyone, people will find, people will report.
Also, buying gold for chants,pots, mats is nothing new and banning GDKP will surely not result in people buying more gold for these things lol.