What are your thoughts about this DKP experience

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Sounds like main raiders are using the rest of the guild who are new.

My opinion?
Get the hell out of there and find a guild that doesn’t use DKP, it screws over the people who don’t get the opportunity to raid all that often and always causes drama.

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correct. bad guilds use dkp. good and decent guilds use loot council

DKP is probably the most fair loot system IF you want to have pretty small social guild who also does raiding.

In this case you don’t want to have 70+ raiders and bench some of them every week.
You want like 45 of them so that everyone can join a raid. But you also want to reward those who showed up to the raid.

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I get dkp but I much prefer rolling and loot council. My first guild had dkp which was fine, but it got to the point where people were paying 700+ dkp for mageblade (15dkp per boss kill).

Loot council = Drama, Corruption, and often bad decision.

DKP with priority list (don’t give Mageblade on a Paladin before all Mage/Warlock get it, for example), is the best system unless you play in a hardcore guild with very solid leaders that are trustable. Since 90% of hardcore guild are just a meme, you know my point, go for a DKP guild is a safe bet for everyone.

Otherwise, i’ll never join a Loot Council random guild, this is a big red flag with “GM and Officer and friends will get all loot and you’ll get the rest even if you perform better”. Loot Council is really good with trustable Guild Leader and very hardcore guild, but you can count them on 1 hand / server so I would not recommend anyone to go in a random Loot Council guild, red flag.

There’s no silver bullet, every system have pro/cons.

And btw :

Don’t join a guild if you can’t come in raids, you waste guild master and officer time by joining something you can’t assume. The amount of tard that join a guild , and know raid days before joining, then they promise they can fit the schedule, and then, they can’t come in raids with “good” reason every time, they just deserve to be replaced. In my guild we had 3/4 persons like that, and even worse, apply/new players that come randomly when “they can” loool. If it happen more than 1 time/month, it’s instant bench/kick, and of course when they come, we don’t give them loot unless they are really trustable (why the hell i’ll loot council a Mageblade to you if you have 50% attendance ? Do you think i’m dumb lol ?).

But it seem it’s a real plague in Classic : boomers who join a guild and can’t assume 100% attendance after joining. We had 3/4 players like that, now replaced, but after talking with others hardcore guild on my server, this happen more than it was on pserver because most of retailer come and think they can go in raid when they have time xD.

Instead of joining a guild that you can’t assume due to your horrible attendance, join something that fit your schedule, or don’t complain if you are benched/you don’t get loot when you are in raid. No matter what loot system is used, it’s a global rule.

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I can’t wait to have the same discussion in phase 6 when we’ll have DKP guilds comfortably progressing through Naxx like everybody else.

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