What do you wish NOT to see back in 9.0?

What features or mechanics should die with BFA? For me:

  • Pathfinder. Either kill flying or let us buy it.
  • Allied Races. They’re lazy reskins behind braindead rep grinds.
  • Time gated story quests. GeT xP/rEp FoR YoUr fOlLoWeRs tO CoNtInUe…
  • The mission table. It has virtually no purpose anymore anyway.
  • Global Cooldown and ability removal.
  • Scaling of mobs health, and levels.
  • Scaling of pvp damage.
  • Huge ilvl creep that make previous tier raids irrelivant.
  • No Tier sets. Bring Tier sets back.
  • 500 different horses as exalted mounts, bring some good mounts.
  • Lack of pvp vendors. I’m sure if players can figure out how to get through the piles of useless content for allied races they can figure out where to find the pvp vendor.

What else, share it here.

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Titanforging and weekly chest with random loot.

For the love of G-d, please, I don’t want to play this slot-machine again and again. I want to see specific items in specific places, like it was before. To buy specific loot for specific currencies, like it was before.

I want to play World of Warcraft, not World of Casino.

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  • Pruning. Give classes abilities back.
  • Another round of useless professions. Make them usefull for pve and pvp again.
  • 4 difficulty modes raiding. Reduce it to 2 to max3 with heroic being to best solution to scrap and just call them normal and mythic. LFR can stay as a third option if it’s not mandatory for raiders to opt in for special trinkets and sets.
  • Socket slot machine. Fixed ammount of socketplaces on gear please.
  • Too high Titanforging. Titanforging could stay with a fixed amount of +10Ilvl. Not more, not less, no more rng on it.
  • Bentic style gear. It’s just stupid. Best pve gear shouldn’t come from killing 10 murlocs.
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Agreed.

Also I find it somewhat ridicules that a free2play game such as Fortnite or Paladins can pump out more and more unique skins in about a month than a game with supposedly still MILLIONS of monthly payers can in 3 years.

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Titanforging,pathfinder and guarantee sockets + ML back and no more casino weekly chest.

I am sick and tired of simming my char after any item change, Oh you are running x talent build x azerite and you just got a new piece that shifts 10 crit into 10 haste? Let me tell you that now you have to use completly different playstyle different talents different essences and azerite have fun.(no really that’s what it is currently for retri).
I want to see an item and use my head and think hm it’s a dps increase YEY or Nay not go to sim every god damn time.

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Ill gladly keep allied races, scaling can go, don’t really care about the rest.
Don’t want another part of the story locked behind a raid though.

This as a casual I never thought I’d notice it. But running old content with my friends yesterday we could only share and get loot if we all hit the boss -_-. It never was like that. And since it’s easily one shot with auto attack, some of us got no loot for xmog sometimes.

The ones we got now should be merged into their existing races and rep removed. I mean they’re just reskins except for like 2. It’s a horrible system that keeps new and returning players away. I unlocked them nearly all and I will, but by god these will be the last I unlock ever.

Titanforging isn’t a terrible idea, just very badly implemented. Every tier higher should produce the highest quality loot. Doing Heroic tier and getting Mythic quality (if not better) loot is absurd, and Titanforging on Mythic loot is even worse.

Now if Titanforging only existed in Heroic and Normal, and the highest maximum ilvl it could be was 5 ilvl below Mythic… I would be fine with that. It would give more luckier casual players ALMOST cutting edge gear, but it wouldn’t detract from top tier raiding.

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This is a great idea that I never thought of. Instead of removing it, this could be a solution.

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Sounds like a sensible ideea , no way in hell Blizzard can implement those type of ideeas. I hate titanforgin with a passion and i said that titanforging is not bad if it can only forge to the next tier of difficulty to a max of mythic.
So in the world only to normal raiding,from normal raiding only to heroic and from heroic to mythic. That’s all but noo we gotta have this casuals need to get above mythic raiding once in a blue moon to fee good and to screw over all mythic raiders into having to aim for forged gear to do progression.

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For me, mostly rep grinds. I want them to find another way to unlock progression. It’s getting old and nobody likes it. Keep rep grinds for faction exclusive items/mounts and allied races though, of course. They’re optional things, and it makes sense for them to be locked behind rep.

I also don’t want to see another big powercreep. The amount of damage and healing people are doing now is just insane. It’s taking its toll on weaker specs, like enhance shaman when you see a fury warrior heal for 5.5mil and enh shaman for 1.2mil and do less damage. It just needs to stop before we’re all demi-gods. I mean, we got people blasting others for 120k kamehameha’s.

Probably my two biggest gripes that I can think of.

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I agree but also, it would be better if they gave options like the old days, buy a tabart and grind dungeons. It took me a solid hour from normal to exalted with Thunderbluff. That is telling how much wow changed, of course during the xpac you would not faceroll through the dungeon but it would be doable.

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I’d be okay with this if they were to keep rep grinds a thing. As long as you can bypass the timegates I have no problem with it. But not being able to progress a storyline because of a rep based timegate is just the worst feeling ever. I’m paying a monthly sub to play the game - not to wait around for things to unlock.

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Yes please. Totally forgot about that.

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Don’t tempt them. Ion has already expressed a liking for it, so for as long as he’s around, Pathfinder will be.

They give hollow content and a reason to play more. Would you rather have WoD 0.2?
Hollow content is better than no content.

It’s basically like any other rep based story campaign, you know, that thing that’s been around since late BC.
It’s still daily quests which are rep gating.

If they bring back good gold missions to it, I’d like to see it again, if not, then it’s quite pointless unless it helps you get a good type of currency.

Be more specific about the GCD, because otherwise you’re going to be getting nuked by instant cast classes if there was no GCD.
I agree with ability pruning, not fun.

Let them scale to the max level and then stay there, they should only level scale, not ilvl scale.

It’s been that way for a long time, they use it to incentivise getting into newer content and not using easily farmed older content.

I too miss tier sets.

It’s only horses for the Alliance, the real work goes into the mounts that the Horde gets.

Yes.

Nah, like the concept.

Sure, then it’ll be “OmFG Bli$$ArD WhERe Is My ContEntT??”

So why remove it if it has no purpose? it’s inconsequential.

I’m sorry, what?

Why?

So basically remove what WoW has been since Classic? Nah mate.

Yes, bring tier sets back.

That’s literally the smallest issue of WoW.

Yes x1000000000

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Current allied race style. Bring actually new races! not reskins.
Bring back ML.
Remake warmode. Current one is a mess.
Give people reasons to roll alliance. Atm no reason. Everything nice is on horde side. OP racials. Best mounts. Storyline. High end raiding is mostly horde. I assume same for pvp (not sure). Ect.

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I disagree with the majority of the changes proposed by the OP, but I do agree that Global Cooldowns need to be removed or at least largely reworked, and that PVP vendors need to matter again. Tier sets I am a little “whatever” about–don’t care either way if they remove or keep them, so long as if they don’t add them back, their replacement is equally cool. What we got with BfA was a bit of a letdown in that regard.

I agree with pretty much everything everyone has posted above. Can’t really add anything more.

+1 vote

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The titan forging casino. At the moment there’s so much RNG involved in gearing up. Things like tidalcores are just bag space. Even if the ratio is horrible I’d like to see a way of purchasing gear with tidalcores (you’d have to make them drop based on difficulty, 1 plus 1 for every plus mythic level plus 1 for every key upgrade ). To resolve the “but what gear?” issue, when you complete a mythic dungeon on time (doesn’t matter if plus 2 or 3) you have a vendor appear by the chest who “sells” the gear that could have dropped for you from the chest for tidalcores.

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