I have always just dismissed it and picked one that had more concrete info on it, but now I want to set up my gear better and this is making me really angry.
"your abilities have a chance to " … what chance??? 99% ? 0.001% ??
WHAT IS THE CHANCE? What the hell were they thinking??? how is this in any way helpful?
I have no way to make this decision. I have no idea if this move is better than the other.
why is this so ambiguous?
this is utterly shameful.
I think its ambiguous because then people will try to approach it a little more open minded, hence why corruptions don’t tell you proc rate (Or atleast I don’t think they do.) and your left to work out the rest yourself minus the damage it deals.
regarding azerite abilities most of them have been simmed to death to the point theres a bazillion guides telling you when to take what over what.
proc odds should be told because sometimes it makes no sense.
one time i can get 4 twilight devistation without even needing them
and other times it can take more then 10 minutes to have one proc.
I don’t follow (those types of) guides though, that takes the fun out of the game, not to mention, I have a personal build and playstyle that most conventional logic doesn’t really fit with.
I get what you’re saying, be open minded… but each time i choose an azerite trait, if I want to change it, it costs gold and that gold cost increases every time. it’s not a decision to be taken lightly. It’s just not feasible for me to experiment with this because it’ll just cause ever increasing costs.
I guess i could get an idea from a guide. where would I even look?
I’ve already checked in various places. wowhead gives zero idea of the proc rate, wowdb is the same, nothing is in the comments to give any idea of it. I tried google searching for the specific ability in question and it didn’t bring up much that seemed useful.
in case you’re curious, I’m trying to decide between tidal surge and another ability which has a flat 25% chance on each rising sun kick.
Without even a vague idea of what the proc rate of it is, I have literally zero idea if it could be better or not. it could be way better or way worse. I shouldn’t have to lose a stack of gold each time I’m faced with this kind of decision.
(I’m only at the second tier of gear piece #1 out of the three that I’m reworking)
There is addon, advanced tool tips, vwhich shows you proc rates of stuff, and also ig its boosted by haste.
Still, its all random pretty much and even if u have spell with 1rppm u can get 2 procs per minut. But at least u will see which spl has how many chances and even with thins randomness spell with rppm 6 will alwys proc more than one with rppm 2…
Hmmmm, OK.
Can you read? He searched for the proc rate. Not the bis corruptions, essences and azerite traits…
Yes, I can read perfectly well.
I read that as they where looking for guidance as to the proc rate for Azurite abilities. What else would you call that but a guide ?
What OP means by not following guides is he didn’t read the guide to find out what the best azerite trait is, he just wanted to know the proc rates. There is a clear difference.
Are you just intentionally being annoying again? Not very constructive
A guide is a guide.
Perhaps if the remark was clarified and explained better then there wouldn’t be a need to prompt for that clarification.
It appears that you’re incapable of making a post without some sort of demeaning comment or insult so I’ll just treat anything you say with the contempt it deserves.
It’s 2020, I’m allowed to be who I am
Of course you are, and I’m allowed to dish my contempt out to whoever I think deserves it.
Now stop trying to derail the thread please.
Thanks, I will definitely try that!!
It’s 2020, probably best to use neutral pronouns if you don’t know a person’s gender.
or look at the gender of the toon.
In all cases you got it wrong.
https://tenor.com/view/spilling-spits-water-gif-5910757
Same goes for corruption and everything. It’s either simmed, datamined on wowhead, or worked out by logs.
So why keep this secrecy, why force people into external sources to get a grasp of what’s going on?
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blizz does not want you to sim or use external sources, that’s why they give you such detailed infos on your gear.
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From what I’ve seen, abilities written with “has a chance to…” don’t actually work in terms of chance of proc, but in procs per minutes. For example, Visions of Perfection procs between 0.85 and 1 per minute, depending on spec. Breath of the Dying procs 10 times per minute, scaling with haste.
Some addons seem to track your procs and make statistics based on that. Haven’t tried them though.
I’ve done that with a cup of coffee and lunched several keyboards that way.
My screen needed a clean and thanks for making my chuckle 
It’s not only about azerite abilities, whenever this phrase is used it means there are a lot of factors involved and some behind the scenes math.
For example the warlock talent Nightfall causes corruption to trigger an instant Shadowbolt, however applying corruption to multiple enemies doesn’t multiply your Nightfall chance at the same rate.
Agony has a chance to grant a soulshard, however the chance isn’t static, it increases with each tick, eventually getting to 100% making the proc guaranteed.
Some are just some tweaks to archaic mechanics that should be reworked, others are done in the name of balance.