Shadow priest has been nerfed twice in the past ~3 weeks. Seems like they want to tone it down a bit no?
Fire mage is too strong, and got nerfed last week.
Augmentation is too strong and is getting nerfed on wednesday.
Hunter specs are underperforming, and are getting buffed on wednesday.
You might argue this isn’t enough and that’s fine, blizzard have stated they dont want to massively change things mid season. But nobody can argue blizzard doesn’t care or has no interest in trying to balance things - they simply nudge specs in the right direction when needed.
The irony is you always go on about paladin but ret paladin isn’t even meta nor that strong lol.
The way things are going, there will be better class balancing at the end of the expansion…
Very sad.
When needed,ok with great succesfull…
And the real irony don’t you think the hunter’s defensive cds aren’t remotely comparable to the paladin’s?
Apart from this, the only weak point of the paladin retry is the St damage which is not so different from that of the Hunter, at least from what I found in M+
Nor are almost any other classes not just hunter lol. But even with that insanely strong defensive kit, it still isn’t considered meta at all. It’s almost like being meta or optimal is more than just defensive cooldowns xd
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Right, it’s not like all hunter specs are at the bottom of raid dps, I must have missed all the buffs.
Another feature that demonstrates how unbalanced the classes are.
Depends what you mean by META.
Even the Mage, before the rework, could be considered META since it was in the top world positions of RIO.
The AOE is also quite strong.
But overall it is a decidedly strong class. If you think differently it is because you will surely have taken into consideration something that for you does not make it META or optimal as a class
There are literally buffs on Wednesday, after buffs a couple of weeks ago. Not to mention that MM is one of the strongest ST specs in the raid.
Don’t really know what this means. Meta is generally considered to be ‘The top performing m+ specs’ of which ret isn’t really one right now. M+ is just absolutely dominated by Aug/Fire/SP, don’t think you can really consider any other DPS meta at all.
Until recently, before the Augmentin and mage rework, the retry paladin was considered a META class.
If now it’s not anymore because the podium is represented by Aug+Sp+Fire mage it means that classes like Hunter and others have remained even further behind in overall terms.
Anyway, whether or not the paladin is META it is definitely better than other classes and this shows how the developers struggle to know how to balance the classes
Defensively? Sure.
Offensively? No, not really.
I repeat, its only weak point is its St damage.
But it’s literally a complete class.
Which has nothing to do with hm…let me think…the Hunter Xd
A question.
Since you said that for Blizzard it is not easy to balance the classes, how is it possible that for 9 months now it hasn’t been able to balance the Shadow Priest?
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MM is a joke with how much rng is involved lol. Needs a rework asap.
And BM and Surv are seriously undertuned in raid right now.
Do you play MM by any chance? Would at least explain why you’re so miserable every time you post.
And what about warlocks dominating since 10.1 launch? Where are the nerfs?
Edit I read the “buffs” and it’s a joke.
A 15% buff on kill shot, barbed shot and cobra shot for BM? These abilities combined maybe do 10% of total DPS so this is maybe a 1.5% DPS gain lol? The devs so out of touch.
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Should be 2-2.5% of the overall damage.
Like putting a plaster on a wound
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Thanks I was too lazy to do the math.
But ye that still sounds like a joke.
Well it doesn’t seem to look too hot on both AoE encounters on warcraftlogs, and even in M+ data. Sure ret is decent, but acting like its anywhere to close to meta is misunderstanding just how good aug fire SP is.
Wasn’t super strong in season 1, very good but not completely oppressive. Shadow has had periods of being completely awful in m+ too last expansion. Sometimes specs are good, sometimes specs are bad. Happens for everyone.
Is the guy complaining constantly calling me, somebody who tells people to take responsibility and that things are better than you think, calling ME ‘miserable’? LMAO.
Warlock doesn’t seem to be dominating much in m+ right now huh?
I didn’t say a word about m+ in this thread.
Learn to read please.
Also no idea what you mean by ‘constantly’ I tend to ignore your crappy takes 90% of the time.
Hunter
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Beast Mastery
- Barbed Shot damage increased by 15%.
- Cobra Shot damage increased by 15%.
- Kill Shot damage increased by 15%.
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Marksmanship
- Trick Shot, Aimed Shot, and Rapid Fire ricochets now deal 65% of their normal damage (was 55%).
What a joke, this is blizzard scamming entire hunter population YET AGAIN (going on for 8 months now)
Not enough, cuz blizzard either bad at math or are scamming people
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This thread is about both. 
Decent is too risky, at best I would say good.
As I wrote recently, the retry paladin was one of the strongest classes in the game and was considered META as a class.
Things have changed now because there is the trio represented by Mage Fire, Augmentin and Priest Shadow and the paladin has dropped in position.
There are classes like the Hunter that are further behind and speaking of the Bm spec, that miserable buff it is about to receive is just a joke.
an absolute JOKE, to keep our copium & subscription going, an absolute SCAM or blizzard are trying and are just really realy really bad at math? like dumbstick stupid at math
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Yep.
My sub runs out in november.
So blizz have until then to get their sht together.
lol i tried out that fun favorite BM (first time in Dragonflight) xDD in 420 most likely s1 gear full crit mastery cuz it was used to MM, and i could do 90-110k totals depends on dungeons. It dosent feels that bad or hard.
In previous topics it was said that bm is not easy xDDD ??
Everything you need to pay attention to can be solved with one weak aura. Ok, you have to pay attention to defs and CCs, but with what other class doesn’t?
I still consider the def’s long CDs to be a big problem.
But, if you can get that much out of it in 420, I don’t know, everyone here is stupid?
100% uptime, you don’t have to interrupt any cast if you have to move, after that anyone who can die with it in avoidable things should play super mario instead.