You say that in S1 the SP was not very strong. Which class was it?
I already answered this sentence in the other thread.
When was the Hunter really good?
5-6 years ago in BFA?
Same reasoning I did but they’ll go ahead with ridiculous buffs that change almost nothing.
I haven’t played for 40 days and the subscription expires at the end of August.
Unfortunately the perception of the Hunter has become so negative that it will take a year to change it.
Also I also read this:
The Hunter is the Only class not represented in the top 500 M+ runs (Not even in the top 2000).
The Hunter is a great class to play, fun and with a mobility that no other class has.
But it needs more attention because it has nothing competitive and does not provide buffs to the party.
Sv is decent, MM really good in St, BM does not shine in nothing.
But why do you always deny things?
I’ll give you the example of the Paladin, claiming that it’s generally a very good class and you tell me it’s decent; I’ll tell you about the SP and you tell me that “Shadow priest has been nerfed twice in the past ~3 weeks. Seems like they want to tone it down a bit no?”
But which down a bit?
Does it look like this class has actually been balanced like this?
Did mage Fire need to be reworked and be META despite the highest Rios in the world being occupied by that class?
You come up with a generic statement “Sometimes specs are good, sometimes specs are bad. Happens for everyone.”
Other example :
The rogue Sub is definitely good.
However it will be reworked.
Was it that necessary?
The truth is that they don’t know how to balance classes and in 9 months I see 5 META classes against all the others that aren’t.
As for the Hunter try to pug in the 22+ and see if they catch you.
They always choose e btw AUG+FIRE+ SP or PALADIN.
And the problem should be mine that I have to jump through hoops to find a solid group and that it does M+ over time?
If at present the Hunter is avoided like the plague there will be a reason.
Wtf am I denying? You said paladin was meta, and it isn’t (You have a very weird definition of meta that is not shared with basically anybody else).
Shadowpriest HAS been nerfed twice in the past 3 weeks, what is that denying? That’s just a fact.
It was reworked for reasons related to zero talent choice and gameplay being bad, nothing to do with throughput. It’s very possible hunter gets this in the future after rogue or further down the line too.
You have the inability to separate ‘being good’ and ‘needing changes’. The specs being reworked are not because they are not powerful - that’s irrelevant. Specs are being reworked because the trees are terrible, there is zero talent choices, etc. The same could be said for hunter, and I expect hunter will get something eventually too. None of this has to do with balance whatsoever.
I don’t know when a ret paladin hurt you, but it’s ok bro. Comparing ret to aug/fire/sp is laughable.
I feel the same way about BM, to be honest. I enjoy playing it because it’s the only ranged spec that gets to dance around continuously during combat, but anyone who can’t get good performance out of it must be not pressing any buttons.
Paladin is meta? Yes because its versatile +got good aoe/utility, but s*** on single. After i tried a couple of runs with your ‘‘hardest class’’ bm i can tell you: with BM easier to keep up with AOE and Single target with the same build.
I’ve already said a thousand times why bm hunter is not meta… Because those who enjoy it so much, they are so stupid that they can’t manage to keep frenzy stacks and beast cleave up.
I can tell you with RET paladin witch is ‘‘META’’ you should have to take care about much more thing than frenzy+beast cleave. Forexample support your team, use instant heals BOP+freedom etc.
And it is difficult for many BM hunters to get 2 weak auras to track your buffs? So **** advenced gameplay.
And you say it’s decent.
Apparently you don’t have a very weird definition of DECENT either
To my sentence:
You answered like this
And this time I also specified with “inconsistent” because in practice they are not nerfs that make the SP a balanced class, indeed quite the opposite, it is a Meta class that represents the inability on the part of the Devs team not to know how to balance it.
How to immerse yourself in useless details that have little impact on the general discourse.
As if the Hunter’s talent tree is adequate…
Given how things are going, I see it tough and if there will be, when at the end of the expansion?
Ok Bro,explain me what the rougue needs to rework.
It doesn’t.
It was just one example of a more balanced class than the others.
Of what has been written so far, from the classes that are unbalanced, from the little attention given by the developers to the Hunter and also other classes that are in the same condition, can you think only of the possibility that I can hate the paladin for being killed by him?
But how sad is all this?
However, to satisfy your curiosity, I don’t do PVP…
Yes, because the Mage is decidedly more; difficult to play compared to the Hunter
Do you know that this statement, besides being heavy, is the result of your personal preconception that has no validity?
As if to say that there are many Mages or Paladins who are stupid and who don’t know how to play.
You still can’t understand how much of an advantage the fact that you don’t have to cast a single spell is over every other ranged class. 100% uptime, 0 interrupts if you can’t grasp these concepts, you’re just stupid.
Frost mage is not difficult for me, but I’ve been playing it for years, but with frost you have to pay attention to a lot of things, if you want to get maximum damage out of it.
There are a lot of small things that can increase the numbers, because of the SHATTER.
On top of that, you also have to cast, and if an AOE comes under you, you lose dps because you have to move away and break the cast if you don’t want to die, that is the thing you will never experience with a BM.
There are exactly 3 things you need to pay attention as a BM: 1. Frenzy 2. On aoe use multi every 6 sec… 3. Use Bestial Wrath on CD when barbed on cd.
But you know what? I don’t enjoy BM hunter, but I will continue to play it, just to see what is “so hard” about it for you.
There are people complaining about real and existing issues.
And then there’s you, complaining about the people who are complaining and bringing nothing to the discussion.
I suggest you find a different hobby.
Must be nice being priest, well there are classes like hunter that don’t even have dedicated devs and have glaring issues so of course we are going to complain, we are paying customers after all.
But you are saying it’s too strong? So that would imply it’s not balanced? Is it balanced or is it not, you keep changing your mind? Not worth replying to anything else, you say a lot of words without any meaning. Maybe it’s a translation thing I don’t know, but none of it makes almost any sense, apologies.
Do you have a source for this? Because it’s pretty clear groups of developers take care of multiple classes. There is no ‘1 dev on 1 class’ for anybody, it simply doesn’t exist.
Ironically, hunter was the class who got by far the most attention + feedback during the dragonflight beta.
What was I supposed to refute?
Hunter’s death logs in Raid?
I only read inferences and, often, concepts that are far-fetched.
You never argued anything, you just spit despite being classified as a Troll.
Are you okay or need help…?
I see you start with the insults.
Very sad when discussions degenerate in this sense.
Too bad I know the Mage frost well and in season 2 of SL I exceeded the 2400 of RIO (which was quite high for that season and not like the current 2400 of RIO).
So you’re the last one who has to give me lessons on how to use it and I also wrote it to you in the other thread…
So who’s the stupid?
out of your mouth.