I do miss the little chats when someone had a bio break or was doing a summon/re-stock. Now it’s just rush on without them and/or kick them.
Makes me both happy and sad thinking back to all the little interactions that I got to experience every day. Now they’re are as rare as seeing invincible drop.
I think this is primarily because for someone that doest know and understand what they´re watching, TGP and MDI often look like exactly that, midlessly pully everything and AEing all down. Then they watch somoen like Asmon get carried thourgh a key by mythic geared players and see more of the same, so in their perception all that M+ is is running in and explodinating. They don´t see the single kicks that go out, or the mass stuns, or even register that a group that was just offscreen was soothed… All they see is boom, kapow, big numbers in big pulls.
You must have been gone for a long time.
You could’ve done about 5 mins of research to figure out the socializing has moved from in-game to platforms like Twitch and Discord.
On Discord you can get into deep conversations about things and find a community to socialize with that has a guild, especially now that the game is cross-faction.
As far as in-game chat and general greetings among players it’s outdated. Its like when people use to meet in real life before online dating, you’re way behind in times thinking that everyone says hi to each other like in the old days.
Nobody wants to be bothered with social interaction in-game, they want to play the game and may have limited time or been through the dungeon a billion times.
Nowadays there is a lot of diversity among types of players and there’s ways to seek that social aspect.
While I strongly agree with this, I wonder if the people who complain about the silent community ever try to initiate any interaction. Not talking about you specifically, of course, but I find that initiating interactions gets you interactions. Maybe not always, but often enough.
The “gogo” mentality has always been in MMORPGs, long before WoW. It was there in 2004 and persists today because it’s more efficient to pull large packs than one at a time. The WoW community is like any other, but people cling to a nostalgic, rose-tinted view of the past.
And that’s generally how I like it.
No offense to you if you don’t. That’s complete fine.
But you can’t expect everyone to enjoy the same things.
If he doesn’t want to play alone, he can join a guild, community, or Discord—there are plenty of ways to find a group. But trying to make friends in a PUG when people are busy? That’s not the time or place for it.
Not just more efficient, but more satisfying.
Funny little numbers go up.
No, it’s actually more time-efficient. WoW isn’t the only MMO like this—FF14 does it too. When leveling, speed is key to getting through as many dungeons as possible, which means large pulls or bypassing mobs entirely. That’s why players rush straight to the last boss whenever they can. No one cares about the scenery they can do that with their actual friends.
If you did read what I wrote… I wrote not JUST more efficient. Not “Not more efficient.”
True. I’ve never queued for a dungeon with the idea of: Let’s make some friends.
No; I’m there because I want to complete the dungeon or need a certain drop there.
That’s all.
Apologies, must have miss read.
its not the first forum post regarding it. Some people complain “wHerE iz da SOcIAL aSPeCT” but at the same time do absolutely nothing to encourage it. I am sorry but what are they expecting? People to line up in queue to talk to you, the moment you log in?
Obviously not everyone will have the same idea. The discord friends which I still keep in contact, I met them in a random m+ where I said hi to them and started a convo
Sure…some told me to get bent but thats socialization in real life as well. Sometimes they reciprocate, sometimes they dont.
i dont mind the loneliness that goes with this game. however i do despise how most of you people treat inexperienced players in a dungeon thats not even heroic or mythic.
to kick someone when he underperforms just to further antagonize him ever further is crazy.
breath the air for once instead of constantly eating those cheetos behind your desk please.
Wait, these are the WoW version of ‘Nice Guys.’ They expect friends, respect, and more without putting in the effort, then come here to complain about why no one likes them.
People who preach about the social aspect of MMOs and feel that the players are asocial are usually the people who struggle to hit a healthy medium between chatting and yapping, in my experience
People do socialize, they just don’t want to yap, they want to play the game
…probably left again after all these uplifting posts
*Hands out community spirit awards *
It’s the inevitable consequence of streamlining content and eroding away moments that force a player to be patient.
I have fond memories of waiting for the boat in Auberdine or Menethil Harbour. You’d see a crowd slowly gather and when the boat finally arrived, another crowd would hop off of the boat. Quite often there would be some friendly conversation whilst waiting. Maybe even a little fishing.
Now? It’s much more convenient - it’s much easier to travel anywhere.
Equally, enemies used to be tough enough that if you pulled an extra opponent you’d risk dying. In many areas of the game you’d have to advance cautiously and be wary of enemy patrols. Nowadays, not so much. Even supposed group quests can be completed solo.
All of the changes over the years contributed to building a largely solo experience far removed from what the game used to be. On many fronts, the quality of life changes are great - but on other fronts, they’ve eroded away quite a bit.
So when players are thrown together there’s a big risk that there’s going to be impatience and drama. Which is unfortunate but it is what it is.
He complains that no one socializes, then posts something odd on the forums. When people engage and question his logic, he could’ve just joined a social guild like everyone did back in 2004. Instead, he’s treating a PUG like it’s speed dating.
I won’t take any of that personally, because all of those things are not something I do.
But yes; it happens. It’s the tryhard crowd more than anything who behave like that, as far as I can tell.