What happend to gold this expac

What happend to gold this expac? Everything is so expensive, I mainly raid and do keys.
Enchants and cosumables are so pricy and i tried doing proffesions and its just not for me. Which ok sure thats my problem. But why wasnt this the case in dragonflight? You could just do your weeklies and dragon races and get some gold every week to pay the repair bills.
I do keys almost every day and i love it. But why do i have to swipe just to pay my repair bills? getting 50 gold at the end of the dungeon is just nothing, you might aswell give nothing or 500 gold.

I tried to help the guild by making stuff early on with proffesions but now i regret it, i would have made so much gold just selling stuff on the AH. boo me trying to help guildies.
I am alone on this?

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I’m making at least 15k daily off my professions and random mats I gathered thrown onto the AH, 90+k on raid nights [wed/fri/sun]. :person_shrugging:

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So i play TWW for about 2 months now. I sit constantly on around 50k gold. It’s not long ago i had my first 100k in inventory. I have not once was on 0 gold or anything nearby that number.

If you feel like everything is expensive, it’s propably just you.

I don’t even focus on making gold. I just play the game and still get tens of thousands of golds.

I have fully enchanted my both pvp and pve sets btw. Still not an issue.

Really you just have to learn saving gold and stop wasting it on everything sexy you see in AH.

I should take this advice… I keep buying everything I’ve not got in collection up to a threshold of 10k per item. :grimacing:

I’d probably have a few dozen times over what I got right now… :sweat_smile:

I think the raw gold drops in the game have decreased considerably. There aren’t any easily repeatable World Quests that yield ~800g each anymore.
There’s no Mission Table these days either, and the drops from mobs are so poor that farming spots aren’t really a thing either.

Which leaves the Auction House.
And prices there are high, so obviously those who manage to sell stuff will earn a good penny.

But then who’s paying these high prices if the gold you get from playing the game is so little? Well it’s probably people who buy WoW Tokens.

That would be my guess anyway. The in-game gold acquisition is crap. The prices on the Auction House are high. People who need to buy things will get their gold through WoW Tokens. And because that’s an unlimited pile of gold that players can just reach for as easily as they can grab their credit card, then there’s no mechanism that pushes the prices on the Auction House down. The WoW Token artificially keeps prices high, creating a divide between the players relying on gold through gameplay (who’ll struggle to afford most things), and players relying on gold from WoW Tokens (who’ll buy whatever they want).

It’s a messed-up economy.

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When I came back to retail after skipping out on SL and DF, I remember the characters I created and played with in my (brief) BfA-adventure had earned around 900k gold between them after about 2 months played (I know this because I dumped that gold in the Warbound-bank). I don’t recall doing something that earned me more gold than usual, nor do I remember spending more gold than normal.

I’m soon 2 months into TWW and I’d say I’ve earned about 350k gold in that time, which is substantially less.

Both in BfA and TWW I mostly earn money from doing random (W)Qs and vendoring trash. I don’t play the AH at all, and my professions are mostly there to make me selfsufficient.

So yeah, unless you play the AH and utilize your professions, I’d say you earn substantially less gold now than you did previously, at least compared to BfA.

Repair bills have skyrocketed compared to what they where before, and “normal” stuff on AH (like enchants and gems) is overall insanely expensive, thousands of gold at the very least.
Meanwhile, quest rewards at max level barely earn you diddly squat (20g is nothing during this expansion) and most vendor trash is worth about the same as it was several expansions ago…

Inflation has indeed struck the economy, but the “earnings” haven’t increased to match this, quite the opposite in fact. Stuff is more expensive, and I earn proportionally less than I did 3 expansions ago.
The economy being in tatters is to be expected when stuff like tokens are a thing though…

I was wondering that myself for some time, but eventually, I found out.
The game design pushes you towards the WoW token.

Blizzard has been doing everything for pure greed for the last few years. You know that, I know that, we all know that. Will it change? No, because they already found out there are fewer people who quit and more who stay and pay up. It’s simple, we have to wait for a true wow replacement, which could be years, maybe decades, maybe never.

BTW: if you dont care about professions I recommend rather 2 gathering ones and at the start of an expansion just gather the first two weeks and it will cover the whole consumables for the rest of the expansion, or run alchemy, they have daily procs that reward you with enough consumables for the day and flask last longer, so you save some gold you’d normally have to spend. GL

I started playing WoW retail in January and had like 10k gold. After 7 months of playing I had 930k gold before expansion. Now I have 2,25m gold and I have probably spent about 700k-1m gold during this expansion.

Most of the gold came from start when people were buying alot of stuff and I was doing open world quests more but if I play the game I feel that I get more gold than I spend. Even if I buy best enchants, gems, sockets and do those 1k gold public orders.

Sure things are expensive but the key thing is to sell materials always and not hoard them because prices will mostly come down. Sell all the crafting materials, fishes, meat, everything you wont need.

I really enjoye SL raw gold where i had so many alts.
Only thing i did in that expansion cause it was crappy was m+ and playing my alts.
Collecting golds from daily callings anyone remembers?
One good thing about SL.

Or do you remember BFA where you could flip for example LW bow or whatever it was craft it cheap and sell it to vendor for like 80-114g i did that and i made 5mil for my brutosaur :smiley:
I miss that kind of gameplay cause it was something fun to me.
Nowadays i just buy token cause i’m making more then a decent amount of money so it’s not problem to put 20 euro here and there

Ye mate. AH is a trap. I keep sometimes peek into different corners of AH with curiosity. For example for armors or weapons.
And it’s just hilarious that someone is charging 100k for a 600ilvl piece of garbage. Top ilvl gear in AH is always ridiculously expensive.
But you know what? There will always be some… how do i call it nicely… dummy? sheep? who will go and buy this piece of garbage, that you can get from some daily or weekly box for free…

And that’s my point. People spend god knows how much gold on nonsense. Often we realize we don’t even need these ridiculously expensive items and with a little work, we can get them basically for free.

Time to pay the Vulpera tax, and share with those less fortunate :dracthyr_nod:

/Throws a vial from their Bag of Tricks

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The raw gold is out of the game and repair costs got quite high. I am only coming around because i also herb and mine (for the weekly or for alchemy) which i sell. Bismuth isn’t doing bad on the AH.

Supply and demand keeps the prices artificially high…

The problem is, people tend to go with the path of least resistance, you see it in OPs post:

People don’t want to go around picking stuff and spend time on professions, therefor the ones that do, gets to price. When we have millions of keys being run weekly but maybe thousands of materials being listed on AH, the demand is higher than the supply.

I read a post at one point about AH cheaters, people in the comments there even stated they sometimes just vendor materials because they can’t be bothered spending time putting it on AH… Even if that is a very small minority it does play in.

This is the kicker though… The “people relying on gold through gameplay” are the same people as:

But of course if you only see “gameplay” as doing dungeons you are right. People limiting themselves in an MMO to only do progression pillars will struggle. But people who rely on gold only through gameplay? No. They are doing well fine with the AH gold.

We saw that early expansion as well… People that spend time doing professions earned millions and are now casually making gold on the side.

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While i am not disagreeing with you people can’t just only raidlog and expect to make gold.
AH gold is only moving gold around (with a loss). That gold needs to be generated somewhere. And with AH prices going down but repair costs stay the same, it will get harder and harder to come around.

If you have time, you pick herbs and farm gold and pay your bills.
If you have money and no time, you buy token and pay your bills.
If you dont have time and money, you are playing wrong game.

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Just fish for half an hour while your raid is forming and you’ll get 20k in after putting all that nonsense on the AH.

Everything is expensive, even stuff you can obtain easily :wink:

I thought of that at some point, especially when during Dragonflight I finally abandoned having 2 production professions and go for 1 production with its associated gathering. But then I thought of something else:

What if they simply don’t want us to spend every second of being online pushing keys or progressing our goals, but instead they want us to spend significant time idling and doing secondary stuff that will help in the long run on the primary goals, so that players with less time can catch up?

Spot on.

I don’t mind going around and collecting stuff for professions.
Heck, I am even maxing out classic Blacksmithing at the moment.

What really turns me off from doing professions is these over-complicated specializations and the gatekeeping involved with getting points.
It’s a burden on professions that blocks me from getting to crafting.

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Love it mate.
That’s what the game is about too.

Exactly…
That’s what we should be doing. Nobody is forcing those people spend god knows how much gold on AH, just because they are LAZY.

It’s their mistake, not Blizzard.

I love those specs!
What seems too much to me, are those stats “finesse, resourceness, etc.”, these things seems unecessary, annoying.

But cmon, specs are fun! Having to decide what to focus on next, whether to be able to craft better craft tools, or armors, weapons, that’s so fun don’t you think??