Hello my name Is Hayden now I have never understood people really and always struggled In social situations In real life and video games ETC for a few reason I have Autism, ADHD, Anxiety and Depression but I used to play World Of Warcraft as a escape from my real life problems.
But I have started to notice something well I noticed It awhile ago but It seems a lot more common now at least to me.
The community on WOW overall seems very anti social and toxic for example in my first return BFA In last patch I asked a question about how to get to Nazjatar and I was told to go fudge my selfâŠ
I play a level 120 blood elf death knight called Malithicar on the realm Draenor but when doing group content you just get ignored when attempting social greetings or attempting to make friends ETC.
As a Tank I have also realised no one has patients Itâs rush rush rush and If you donât move at everyone elseâs pace you get verbal abuse or they constantly pull and aggro without any thought of needing a tank even In top tier difficulties.
I tried Heroic Operation Mechagon as I needed to complete the quest and I couldnât even eat my buffing good without the group running off like I didnât exist pulling everything no fudges given.
Then we got to the part where you have to walk past the robots without them catching you or It sends you back to the beginning of the path well me and a warrior where struggling half way and couldnât find a gap well lucky for him he had heroic leapâŠ
For me I got left In the dust they went on to pull the boss and without a word kicked me from the group.
The game I love world of warcraft but why are people such horrible beings⊠Whatâs happened to societyâŠ
I now fear to venture into dungeons or raids out of fear to get verbal abuse or kicked for stupid reasons despite not being a bad tankâŠ
Its basically the behavior of people irl changed, and affected the gameplay overall. 10+ years ago, people were much friendlier, and helpfull to each other.
Nowdays you cant trust anyone, for whatever reasons, and everyone is beign toxic, elitist, whatever, just to prove that he is betterâŠ
I agree to a lot of this. My advise is to try a rp realm, people are more social and imo generally friendlier. Itâs also more accepted to not be a mainstream person.
I started to play WoW during TBC and the community was a complete cesspit. Itâs always harder when your only interactions are with strangers and you donât have friends or guildies to mix with.
A lot of socialising has shifted to discords, most guilds have them these days. There are all sorts of communities as well as guilds. It sounds like you need to find yourself a nice home somewhere.
yesterday i tanked a hc dungeon because i needed some equip and it gave me top tier anxiety. i was always afraid i am not moving fast enough or pulling unneccessary things, losing aggro or something like that.
i really want to get into tanking but the community puts me off. never had this issue when my friends were playing and we were just having fun. it then didnt matter if we didnt get a key in time or we would just screw around trying new things.
its really a confidence thing as well. its intimidating if even the dps have almost double the hp than i do combined with not knowing the dungeons really well from a tanks perspective. so of course people get impatient. not everyones like that of course but you definitely get some bad apples.
i dont know if zen horde/scared of dungeons still exist but maybe thats worth giving a shot when you re new or returning to the game.
I got that dungeon by mistake after I pressed LFD heroic on my Forsaken Priest.
Hated every second of it as I was unfamiliar with it and didnât even stepped foot on Nazjstar yet.
Fortunately, for me, the tank didnât knew the dungeon either.
I failed miserably on the part where you have to pass through the robots, while cursing all the time.
I expected 100% to be removed, by this time.
The group killed the boss called me to go with them, by the back entrance and we went to the last boss.
This is why I love normal/heroic dungeon base level.
People are more chilled.
I avoid anything that comes after that, like plague.
Pugging usually is the âhard wayâ of learning because people usually go there and expect people to already know what to do.
If you wanna go with more chill people, you need to write down couple more line in dungeon description.
That way you usually end up with people learning new class and role and everyone is more chill. Sometimes you end up with a clown that canât read but it is really rare.
Just put up your 2 keys and state âlearning to tank - chill runâ.
In pugs everyone can be rude without consequenses and say stuff like they never could otherwise.
Like others have said you need a friendly guild or friends from the game that you know will respect you otherwise you are just a random player that they can say anything to without putting their reputation at steak.
Myself almost always take my time to help others with questions and sometimes if they ask for help even if it takes 30 minutes of my time. The other day a lvl 10 asked for 40 silver for his proffesion on classic and I send him 1g just to make him happy because I know how much I would appreciate it if someone was nice to me if I was new to the game.
Probably seems pretty weird since I most likely seems like a negative player that argues a lot on the forum.
I got told im not allowed to be on an rp server because i dont rp, i rp very rarely but i like to walk around in stealth & watch others rp, is some good entertainment
I used to boost people in norm dung & heroic ( To help people level faster ) around 40% of the time i got kicked at 2-3/4 bosses down and when i asked why it was just ââdunnoââ so you canât even boost people right without getting the boot
Hello. Allow me to try throw my little bunch in the fire.
The reason why people are not afraid to act unfriendly and toxic is anonymity that various tools like group finders and cross server playing brought to the game.
Before cross realm play was a thing, people had to socialize more and if some person was toxic, he was very soon disliked by the realm community and he had to work on his social skills or well⊠reroll on another server.
Nowadays WoW can feel like a game where other players are neccesary evil that you just use to get better gear and suffer group content with them. When everyone can hide comfortably behind this anonimity it is much easier to insult people, be mean and/or not helpful.
But players who are not toxic have means to fight against this. There is an option to join (or even form) guild and communities. If you join a guild or community, the anonymous players becomes friends and guildies and that motivates them to behave again.
There is no need for players to interact together. You have all of the âQuality of Lifeâ changes to thank for that e.g. auto-teleport to dungeons and not having to make your own dungeon groups.
Most people now just donât even bother and just want to rush through the dungeon to get to the end-ârewardâ, so they can move on to the next dungeon or world quest.
This is what many people thought that they wanted and itâs what you got. Donât complain about it now
I rest my case.
They donât get anything out of helping you. Itâs easier to just get rid of you.
Nothing. While there are a lot of good changes on retail, the release of the Classic realms clearly shows that the way the games force (or donât force) players to play together reflects their behavior.
On Classic WoW you rely on your group. You need to put in the effort to find or create a group from scratch yourself, which requires you to be nice, because nobody wants a jerk in their group.
This is not the case on retail. Youâre just automatically tossed in to one and thereâs no need for any social interaction whatsoever.
Another thing is that on Classic youâve got somewhat of a server reputation to maintain or you could risk being kicked from your guild and nobody will want to play with you any longer. We have had a few of these cases in my Classic Guild. After they caused a lot of drama and grief with us they were removed and no other guild wanted to take them any longer and they were forced to transfer off of the server.
On Retail there arenât any sort of consequences to acting like a d*ck. Even being removed from a group wonât really do anything because you can just click a button and find a new one.
This is a misconception. My experience on Classic compared to my experiences on retail are night-and-day.
People are friendlier on classic because thatâs the most productive way to go.
Mind you that this isnât a âclassic vs retailâ-answer.
Itâs me explaining why these quality of life changes affect the behavior of players.
I suggest finding a social guild or joining a community. You can find people to play with, if you find yourself comfortable you can do multiple runs and make friends along the way.
If you donât know dungeons routes I think you should queue as DPS in order to become familiar with mechanics. If you want to tank you should ask someone from your guild (assuming you have one or youâre looking for one).
Not all are âhorribleâ.
When you use LFD tool or LFG you can find someone whoâs willing to help or someone who just want to finish the dungeon in order to do something else.
