I think it splits more than it being a direct chain:
Lor’themar’s underlings: Rommath and Halduron.
Rommath’s underlings: Liadrin (as per BotHB), Aethas (as per the racial leader story from Wrath), Tae’thelan (makes sense for the Reliquary to come under Rommath imo).
Halduron (as per the zul again patch) is in charge of Silvermoon’s defenses, so there’s a whole array of minor characters beneath him.
I believe Liadrin started to outrank Halduron at one point considering she has been leading every assault and offense outside of the kingdom borders so far. Halduron never went beyond it for official purposes. And Rommath is pretty much the second man in the kingdom. Kind of a right hand man.
I don’t think that this makes it the case, while Liadrin has been the more active character (Halduron hasn’t done anything since Zul’Again) it doesn’t necessarily mean anything; especially when you can view some of the Liadrin/Blood Knight expeditions as charity/attempting to make amends (e.g AltDraenor Shattrath.)
I will add - Night Elves - We lost the war to Horde and their home got Burned, lets blame it on Elune, Goddess they worshipped for millennia. Faith almost everyone holds in society, now lets join Forsaken in our second “life”.
It has never been a religion, imo, they just siphoned the energy from naaru, now they get blessed by it. Unlike humans channel it from faith
But the circle of cenarius is helping to regrow the plaguelands, including Nightelves, Worgen, Tauren and at least some trolls
Ok, you’re right somewhere but I already said that.
I just shared what I think about that all. Go somewhere else if you want to twist the meanings of specific threads.
Further more, humans believe much more deeply and much longer in the Light then blood elves ever did, so your argument is kinda bleh.
So they had weak faith. Yet blamed the light for the Sunwell how does that make any sense?
Not to mention that the Holy Light was never a strong religion within Quel’Thalas. You yourself said that a minority practiced it.
Exactly so why did they lose faith when it didn’t come to save them…it didn’t save the humans who were much more devout.
If I am wrong which might be the case and their light wasn’t cut off like the Broken got cut off…then they just have an infantile attitude believing a faith they only half assed believed in would save them.
Hello, you just realised why making one or the other faction evil contradicts the very gameplay of the game. Our morality is dictated more by class than by race or faction. My worgen death knight is probably a horrible monster deep inside but he’s forced to serve the good and pure uwu Alliance.
And that’s why Alliance genocide of Horde races is a good thing to balance faction morality.
DK are monsters but they don’t have to be evil. I see them more as “morally grey”.
I think it would be just bad storywriting on the other side. It would look far-fetched like the current faction war 
Shooting myself in the foot here as a Horde main, but…
‘Come @ us’ is my answer to that situation. Simply because I want Wrathion’s vision of unwanted outcasts Horde to come true. And the Alliance being its active hunters who are in all intents and purposes correct in their methods is cool.
Written properly, it’ll give a sense of true pride where no side would feel wrong in being whatever faction they are.
Actually, Ranger-General is the title given to the leader of the entirety of the Thalassian military, not just the Farstriders. It actually predates the Farstriders as an organisation. Halduron is Liadrin’s boss, not the other way around. -However-, from ‘Blood of the Highborne’ (Which I actually read in German ironically given that you are on Die Aldor) it is heavily implied if not outright stated that even before the Blood Knights existed, Lor’themar and Liadrin were a ‘thing’, her influence will be huge. But yeah, the chain of command is Lor’themar at top, Rommath as his Advisor, Halduron as Military Commander, both holding roughly the same status, and everyone else below that. Liadrin is probably next in the hierarchy, and Lor’themar’s ‘Go-to’ person to head to warzones and sort things out. Tae’thelan Bloodwatcher is hard to place, as the Reliquary are not -really- Military, and they’re not -really- Magisters/Magistrixi. It is undeniable that he has some power, but essentially he runs a group of ‘combat archaeologists’ (Now there is a bizarre phrase), he doesn’t -really- have authority over anyone not in the Reliquary, however he probably has enough influence that it is a -smart- move for your average person to do as he says. I think Bloodwatcher’s status is more down to his usefulness/influence than any formal rank. We don’t actually know enough about the Reliquary to state for certain, are they a branch of government? Are they simply a very successful private enterprise?
Its all a bit confusing.
(I may be hazy on the ‘Blood of the Highborne’ bit, it was a long time ago when I read it, and German isn’t my native tongue)
I think it depends on what time the CC came to Western Plaguelands. By the time of Cataclysm most of the SC have either died, turned into Risen or are holding out in Scarlet Monastery. So it would depend on whether Hearthglen was taken by the time the CC arrived.
In Tides of War (I think, or Wolfheart) Southshore barely saw any “exotic” Alliance members if any. So it is not so far fetched to assume that the SC didn’t see any all the way in the Plaguelands if Hillsbrad barely saw any.
Nice topic.
I will begin with a couple of quotes, since I don’t want to repeat other peoples words.
I quoted this replies as they stated better than I would ever do, exactly what I think about BfA story.
I think this is the only thing I can find to justify the current plot to be honest.
Sometimes I regret not playing my vanilla account:
My Troll Hunter, from vanilla, would be delighted with the Zandalari, my Orc warrior from vanilla, would be with Saurfang all the way, as for my Undead priest from TBC she would be just a mindless puppet in the hands of Sylvanas to be honest …
I see no reason, lore wise, to play a Blood Elf or a Tauren in the current expansion.
Not going to even talk about Paladins …
From my point of view, Blood Elfs care only about one thing: themselfs and nothing else.
Now how on earth a conflict that will bring more deaths, serve their interests ?
They still have a city to rebuild and a hole land devastated by the scourge.
I mean the heritage quest armor clearly states that the Blood Elf poplulation was decimated by Arthas by 90%.
Unless ActivisionBlizzard is plannning some kind of babyboom program for all races, especially the Night Elfs after BfA …
My conclusion:
Legion was the expansion where all lose ties should had been concluded.
The Alliance and the Horde put their differences aside to fight a bigger threat: The Legion.
Varian, Vol’Jin and Tirion along many Horde and Alliance soldiers died on the Broken Shore, so Azeroth could live another day.
If ActivisionBlizzard wanted to reset the plot, maybe a new game or a expansion where Gul’Dan (before dieing) manages to send the player character back to the past, where he is confronted with the First Horde, would be a better idea in bringing Warcraft back to his “roots”.
That’s just some of my thoughts.
Cheers.
how would that work for the Horde? “you play the bad guys now” (joining the Old Horde) or “you kill your own people. but it’s FOR THE ALLIANCE!!!” (helping the Alliance to fight of the old Horde)?
Both options would feel bad, and give no satisfaction for a huge part of the Horde-playerbase.
Literally the same plot as from WoD. Big NO from me
Class identity is not the only identity, for my char he would Stay loyal because not being loyal in wartime could compromise the horde and therefor the position of his homeland in the world, he believes the Sin’dorei are now part of the Horde and he doesn’t believe the Alliance will be as mercifull as they were after Garrosh, he sees a fractured or losing horde as the biggest threat to his homeland and acts from that standpoint (even if he isnt happy with the status quo, its either victory or possible annihalation) wether this is justified or not doesn’t affect his vieuw on the matter because he can think of plenty of justifications for the Alliance to be brutal after victory
Again, there is more then class identity
To you maybe but I Just mentioned what I think is a perfectly good reason, continuation/preservation of the self and its culture is probably the biggest instinct we know and losing a war is the best way to not get that
You could join a third faction.
Remember the Frostwolf clan ? Durotan ?
Orgrim Doomhammer ?
Plus it would allow the Horde players who like to do evil stuff to do it in the name of the first Horde. Some Orc players stated, they missed the Old Horde.
For the players that like Thralls Horde it would be a reminder why the current Horde values need to exist, so past errors are not repited.
I knew you would say that.
Would you prefer MoP 2 like we are having now ?
Remember this is not the iron Horde we are talking about, nor Garrosh.
This is the original Horde.
A more brutal one and this time will have the Alliance led by King Llane.
We had the alternative universe Horde but we never got to see the alternative universe Alliance.
The unthinkable could happen.
Imagine if after Anduin Lothar falls, is the Alliance character who motivates Turalyon to fight.
The Horde player could be the unknown entety that saves baby Thrall, from certain death, thus becoming responsible for the new Horde.
Besides I didn’t came with this concept of getting WoW back to his “roots”.
Cheers.
The Orcs already took the biggest hits of them all since WoW was launched. No need to drag them down any further.
It’s Orcs Vs Humans.
They are the protagonist of this game.
It’s the same thing as playing the Alliance and complaining about Humans.
Cheers.
If AU Azeroth would show humans, I gurantee you NONE of them would end up as raid bosses or being shown as bad guys to get killed off. Thse double standards will not change until the lore team changes.