What if Haranirs become allied race

Subjective. But also: That’s 20 years too late.
We should have gotten ogres for the horde instead of blood elves and high elves for the alliance instead of tentacle space goats.

Oh well.

High elves didn’t exist after Warcraft 3. That’s the whole point of the blood elf campaign. Blizzard made the right call.

False.

Nope.

But we know you love your ‘pretty race’ for the horde.
Because the rest is ugly. Amirite?

We found another nostalgia shill it seems. High elves were never part of the alliance apart from a handful of classic Andy’s. Blood elves are the Upgrade.

Lol. Not at all. I just hate draenei and their forced entry into the game. They were supposed to be dead; killed by the orcs. Well mostly anyway; maybe a pocket or 2 left in Outland would have made sense… But them crashing on Azeroth with a spaceship? Utter complete ludicrous deranged nonsense.

Think of how you feel about Blizzard’s horde treatment.
That’s how I feel about draenei. They were never supposed to be here.
Broken ones; maybe.

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Okay fair. You are entitled to your own opinion of course. But I Just love blood elves. They could be perfect If Sylvanas and Kael’thas came back.

Sylvanas will come back. In what role, is TBD.
Maybe she’ll be a bit like Thrall has been for years; an outsider, but willing to help out in an hour of need.

I doubt she’ll have anything to do with the blood elves though; she’s undead.

But who knows what kind of stuff the devs are cooking up.

She can make the pledge like Velonara did since she affirmed both the Forsaken and the blood elves as their people all the same.

We’re really nice if you get to know us. :innocent:

#BeKind

What is the right punishment for omnicide?

Kil’jaeden made the Eredar do it. :innocent:

I’ll believe you, if you help advocate for the Forsaken joining the Alliance. Reunite the shattered families of the Scourging. We’re just humans with a slight living impairment, but we’re also really nice when you get to know us.

I told my kids I’d only be gone for a few weeks, while traveling to Lordaeron to get a shipment of Milk. But here we are 20 years later, and I still can’t go home :frowning:

Stormwind is not the home of the Forsaken.

True, the majority of the Forsaken are native to Lordaeron. But they may still have family or relatives living in Stormwind. Or they could have been a Farmer traveling to Lordaeron at an unlucky time. Or a Soldier sent there as a Reserve Unit. A scholar from Stormwind, studying at Dalaran.

There are lots of things that could connect the Forsaken of Lordaeron with the Humans of Stormwind. Which is also evident from the number of Forsaken that participated in “The Gathering”

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Then we’ll get another neutral race and at this point I don’t think I want to have harronir more then I don’t want to see another neutral race
No more neutral races

Why not though?

If they end up becoming more prominent, chances are good that we’ll get to play them. Maybe next expansion?

There was like 15 years of rts games prior where they’re alliance but I know the lore doesn’t matter to you only where you can whine about like a petulant child

I am a faction affectionado and at some point if we’re going to keep getting neutral races the factions will stop feeling distinct from eachother. Pandaran I actually like the choice for but they were also introduced in time where faction conflict was at an absolute high, so that made it interesting.

Dracthyr being a second feels alright considering it was several expacs and probably over a decade and several faction aligned allied races inbetween them, however with Earthen being followed up immediately as neutral and harronir which were showcased in both alliance and horde pvp plate armor paints the image that they have little intention to add new races that aren’t neutral and suddenly we went from 2 neutral races over the path of 10 major versions of the game (classic up until dragonflight) to multiple neutral races in a single expansion (assuming we would get harronir in tww)

The issue with that is that neutral races take away from faction identity and I think that having 4 neutral races already of which 3 were added back to back we are reaching a point where that’s already starting to happen for me. They promised a return at the very least to faction narrative (conflict or not doesn’t really matter) and in my eyes adding neutral races goes hard against that.

So basically because I feel like it can and already is hurting faction identity.

Everyone will have another view on this I reckon, but this is my take on more neutral races

I think earthen (alliance) something else (horde) and then harronir (neutral because already advertised in both alliance and horde gear so its not like you can pull that back without people getting prickly) would’ve been better then earthen (neutral) and harronir (neutral) one expansion after dracthyr (also neutral).

There’s also how they’re added, with pandaran and dracthyr there’s an actual group of pandaran and dracthyr that choose to join the horde or alliance and your pandaran/dracthyr is a part of that.

Earthen is just idk an open internship or something, they just walked into orgrimmar and started questing with no real explanation. Harronir also doesn’t seem to have a divide between them where it would make sense that they divide themselves between horde and alliance.

Edit, many edits cause I kept feeling I left something unsaid ayy, hope this gives a perspective on why no to neutral races

Fair enough.
I personally don’t agree with you or feel the same, but I’ll respect your view.

I’ve never felt greatly in favour of either the horde or alliance. I never felt like I was ‘one of them’. They’re just ‘red’ or ‘blue’, really, as far as I’m concerned.

Earthen were a mistake of a race anyway imo. I’ve liked their backstory more than I thought I would, prior to TWW, but I still don’t like the race as a race. But I don’t let that bother me; what do I care if there’s earthen running around in town?

I also doubt enough people would actually play them to impact the faction identity, honestly. In that regard, I think Blood Elves did a LOT more damage to the horde identity than any other race that joined them. To me they have never and will never feel like ‘horde’. They’re a cop-out pretty race to get more people to play horde, and that’s all they’ll ever be to me: An alliance race made edgy to appeal to horde players.

We know very little of them.
I’m expecting/hoping that future storylines will have it all make sense.
If it even happens, of course.