What if there was a version of wow, where you cant use addons?

I found a good cartoon depiction of it

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It would be awful playing a healer with the base UI. I don’t care what addons people have but I would straight up not play if I had to use the base UI.

I don’t heal (I did once in Cata, and did a +6 in Legion on a shaman), so what’s so awful with the base UI for healing? Genuinely curious.

For one - the limit on how many hots you can see on the party members. If you’re playing a resto druid you can’t on a quick glance see how many hots someone have on them. You have to target them if you use the base UI to see how many hots they have.

Then you can’t track people’s CDs, so you don’t know if they have something to respond with if they get hit by something or there’s heavy damage incoming, so you can decide who to prioritize.

You also can’t see if guardian spirit has procced in the base UI, unless you check the combat log but you’re unlikely to spot it proccing there with how much goes on during combat.

And on it goes.

The base UI just isn’t healer friendly.

You cannot customize the base UI enough.
The need to do so is what finally pushed me over the edge and made me switch to EVUI in Dragonflight to heal better as a Prevoker.

It was really hard to not possible to set up the base ui to accommodate double Reversion for season 1

Just reading this made me think ‘‘Wow, this is the dumbest crabs ever’’.

I hate this already.

If such a version encouraged Blizzard to actually fix their UI I would be for this, not because I’d play it, but because that improved UI would also come to the main game.

And even then. Most savage/ultimate statics use them. The game has logging and etc which is needed for addons. Only difference between wow being that they got a “see no evil policy”. As long as you are not publicly streaming it or name&shamming somebody for bad dps…then SQ pretends you dont have addons and leaves you in peace.

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This is a huge improvement from how every new player gets performance shamed in WoW even on leveling content

I’ve always found this funny - imagine getting shamed for being a new player and not knowing every detail in the game.

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Yeah. This is why every healer has customized (party) frames.

But it is not only about healers. Fire mage for example has a blessing of sunking talent. This talent has 2 components. It gives stacks of a buff when you are able to use your hotstreak. When you get to 8 stacks you get another buff that gives you the option to hardcast a pyroblast in the next 15 seconds to proc some seconds of combustion.
Good luck watching those 2 buffs in your 25 list of buffs. The normal UI gives no response at all to say you are allowed to hardcast a pyroblast. Completely nothing.

Or brewmaster you want to track your purify brew stacks. The buff stays for 15 seconds and you do not want to let it drop off, since your personal heal with expel harm depends on your amount of stacks you got, and your celestial brew shield also depend on it. So you want to check the time you got left till the buff drops off, and you want to know how many you got. This does not even has anything to do with talents or something. This is all basic brewmaster.

Not every tool is used only for malicious intentions. That same dps metter can also be used for dps self reflection because there is no other way to see how good or bad you are doing. You might think doing 50k is “ok” until you find out that people in same level and similiar gear doing 150k. You will never know otherwise.

Its a tool like any other. Same with a kitchen knife, valuble tool in food preparation but you can also use it to harm and potentionally kill somebody. So are all kitchen knives suddenly bannable cold weapons?

No
/10char

I do not understand the obsession by some to want to eradicate addons. I think it’s great that we have addons. That people are clever enough to make things that the game lacks.

Various things have been adopted by Blizzard over the years. If you want to see how basic the game was then go back to Classic. It’s a very quick lesson in how far the game has come.

I want all my addons or I wouldn’t be using them. They aren’t all combat related either.

Every beta test we have periods of no addons. You soon realise that you miss certain things more than others. You can’t even have a damage meter.

It is like modding in any good old PC game.
I would say it is the best part of PC gaming

So wow right now. Just turn them off.

I’ve played for *cough * an amount of time and I’ve never played with addons (I have downloaded some and tried them out just to see what the fuss is but never kept them for my everyday play)
I’ve never seen the use for them tbh. Even when I was raiding seriously.
Wow is perfectly fine without them.
Gonna be a bit judgmental here but I think a lot of people start with adding lots of addons to the game before they even try playing it.
I see almost everyday here a thread with some newbie just starting out with the game/pvp/mythic etc and the question and first comment is always what addons to use.

Could be considered a disadvantage playing without addons, especially in pvp but I just see it as others playing with a handicap to make it fair. *flex *

I also find it funny when guildies complain about wow’s original ui looking trash and then they post their own looking like

But whatever floats your boat. ^^

I hate what I’m seeing.

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Wondering how many people still use 4:3 monitors :sweat_smile:

But yes. those partyframes on the left side were the default original party frames. Good luck healing. That is why as a new player when i got on max level in dungeons instant installed elvui.

It’s pretty simple.

A lot of people need to feel better about themselves, so they shift the blame on their poor perfomance on the fact that others use addons while they do not.

You could argue that they could simply use addons as well but that would require work on their part.

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Raiding without needing addons / WAs would be nice.