What is a PCU?

Just 191 days until Christmas.

:christmas_tree:

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it’s morbin’ time

I mean, this is the person who doesn’t think people make alts to pretend to be PCU people to stir the pot.

And having watched somebody do that recently…

True, would like to have a source on that as well, Zaphius

People here are being harassed and either you don’t see it, or you don’t care about them.

Again: I am not inciting harassment. I am asking two things: either people are upfront about belonging in the PCU, or they don’t use this lack of information to belittle others.
If you see such a request as harassment, that’s a bit delusional.

I have offered evidence twice that I was accused of being an ERPer and an OOCer (as if these two things could co-exist) without any proof by the members of the PCU, including one of their officers. And aside from a certain worgen, everyone else was like, “yeah, I don’t care anymore.”

So, yes. I’ve been here for a while. I know it’s just a way to waste my energy. I did already provide a list, and people were like: “oh, two names are wrong, it means your point is invalid!”. People are trying to nit-pick because they know I am right in the bigger point.

Then do the same?
Accusing people of being ERPers without proof, or being paranoid for denouncing your lack of transparency - which you have kinda admitted by now (when you said some people around here might not be comfortable being associated with the PCU), is frankly a dishonest take already.

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Lets also not forget the crap pvP squad making alts on a different server to do ERP to then post it and claim it was the Rotgarde.

That happened.

Starting to think people actually DO pretend to be PCu to stir the pot.

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Oh I remember that all too well, hilarious.

They even tried to impersonate someone not even IN the Rotgarde/PCU in general.
In the same video.

Hmm.

That would ironically be a better reason to, you know, post the list of everyone here who is actually associated with the PCU.

And why on God’s earth I would care about people, who brand me as something I am not/do not do?

Rich

Did I accuse you of ERP? Link to that, please

So people have to be transparent, when they are being accused by the likes of you that they belong to PCU, yet people do NOT have to be transparent, when they are accused of ERP (not you) and harassment (again not you) server-wide and are known outside of the PCU community to be what they are called.

Aged well in 19 minutes

Yeah, that person was supposed to be “filming” it, probably to stir the pot between the PCU and that community on top.

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You’re STILL trying to push for this?
Give up bro, you’re not going to get one from them.

People used names in the PCU they knew to create same named alts. So making a list will stop them doing it again!.. Somehow.

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I’m aware that pretty much every large group that uses the forums did this before. I’m not a fan of it, that’s that. If that’s what was referred to, fair enough.
The argument earlier was people complaining that PCU members seem to appear in numbers for forum topics, though. Which is kind of banal a complaint, and that’s what I was clearly talking about.

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Did you just quote Croecell’s sarcasm and try to pass it off as a source?

Good Lord

I won’t come back to +200 posts just to find Hannah Gadsby slander.

I think you care because you post here. Perhaps you do care because they accuse you of associating with a group that is harming the community at large. It is a group who, in the past, has used tactics such as gaslighting, coordinated harassment, and so on, and seemingly still does?

Others in the PCU have.

Where did I say that? This is so… distant from what I am telling over and over.
I think if someone is an harasser, ideally they should be transparent. Most won’t be, obviously, because they want to get away with it - and that is why I see check-pvp as a necessary evil. We have been here already, haven’t we?

As far as I can tell, I haven’t been using double standards here.

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Except they literally pretended they´re Rotgarde, created characters with those names on another server and created an ERP video. So in fact, their knowledge of names of guild members within Rotgarde + being able to see them in Armory and replicate their mogs aided them in this endeavour.
Man, you just can´t help it, it´s as if you are trying to be as wrong as one can possibly be.

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Then they should stop accusing people of speculating about hidden stuff when there is stuff they purposefully keep hidden. All I am asking is one of the two: either you do this, or that.

As far as I know, this tactic was made popular by the group that would later turn into the PCU. I think the raids are not just about upvotes and downvotes, but in general attacking people’s credibility, which did happen here, and showing that numbers back up your group rather than the other.

Well, they do however, don’t they?

That wouldn’t be a problem in what I requested at all.

Or how about you should just stop trying to get a list from them, they’re not going to give you one.

Just stop, you’re making yourself look like even more of a broken record.

Then this suggests that they aren’t being transparent and using this to their advantage.