Hardly anything new, when he excuses harassment in the first place.
What worries me the most is that with such flawed logic he will also start “branding” people permanently, who have no involvement with the PCU in the first place - just occasional “agree” on the forum is enough for him to consider someone PCU.
Food for thought, if he wants to have a list of people
It’s because people believe that the PCU raids the forums and uses characters that are seemingly unaffiliated with their guilds to boost their credibility. They did that in the past and do it now.
And when you question these attitudes and actually think that some people might be PCU, you get labeled as paranoid by quite a good amount of PCU people, who push their narrative that any dissent comes from people who are not be right in their mind. Which is frankly an awful strategy to adopt, and deserves to be called out.
How, exactly? It’s the names of 6-8 alt characters at best, who again can’t be traced back to their other characters.
And. Frankly. If you don’t want to have people asking for transparency. Again. Don’t use this lack of transparency to insinuate that others are out of their mind for thinking that there are hidden PCU members around the forums, because your current refusal is based exactly on this statement: that there are hidden members that you don’t feel like mentioning.
If your group uses their tendency to hide alts as a weapon to harm others in an unfair way, rather than a way to protect their privacy, then it’s absolutely blameworthy.
I notice that you quoted everything I said apart from the bit about it potentially breaching the social contract that you agreed to at that start of 9.2.5. Presumably that’s just a mistake on your part though and you wouldn’t intentionally try and manipulate around that.
I’ll ask this though, do you see how your requests for lists and having people make themselves known, even going as far as (as you correctly said) branding people as part of the PCU when actually they aren’t, could be taken as a witch hunt and a form of harassment?
I do not know, I offered you literal real life money for you to make that list, just so that you could prove the points you mentioned earlier, which I am going to repost to you. Again.
Because again, Zaphius, you are talking without any proof, or the said proof is away because no one bothered to get it. So I am telling you - get it, post it and I’ll even pay you.
Yeah true, my bad on wording it poorly. Still remember the days when Zaphius called me PCU, when I had no affiliation with it at the time
True. I was wrong - I don’t think in general an apology matters much - but if you felt attacked and unjustly treated, and an apology will help that, then I am sorry: it was not my intention to make you feel like you’re a bad person.
Then again, it’s not like I think any individual in the PCU is a bad person.
Oh nah they disregarded my imgur thread about the Keti situation as ‘Poorly put together’ and basically went ‘Another PCU ploy to deflect off their own misdeeds!’
Not at all: asking if (or assuming that) someone is part of a community is not a form of harassment.
And saying that it is a precondition to honesty isn’t either. On the contrary, manipulating informations to suggest that someone is paranoid is definitely a breach of a fair behavior between players.
A lot of proofs are kinda there. I’d say there isn’t full evidence, but there is quite a lot of it around this thread alone to make it likely beyond reasonable doubt.
A bit late but I appreciate the attempt being made, kinda.
Not a lot since the discussion at the time was about dogpiling and thus the inclusion of any non-PCU like myself, or even some PCU members in that list is essentially an accusation of wrongdoing, but that’s a whole other thing.
Genuinely don’t understand this “PCU raiding the forums” thing.
I’m here to post my opinion on a topic that I chose, on the forum of the IG realm I play on, as did everyone, can we stop framing this in such a weirdly paranoid way to make boogeymen out of completely random people? Should I go to 99% of the forum topics on this website and make remarks of “Non PCU are raiding” them?
Have your gripes with this and that member of the PCU if you must, argue with them here if you fancy, but kindly stop implicating me and tons of others of things we aren’t doing. Thanks.
So, you yourself won’t post any, but will just shrug it off saying “they are there”? So, in the end, you refuse to back your own words despite an obvious chance for you to do it?
So yeah, Zaphius, you can clearly see now why 1) no one believes you and 2) hardly pays any heed to illuminati you post
Because in the past - and I presume now - the members of the PCU organized themselves to downvote/upvote and post replies about this or that topic, seeking to put people in a genuine bad light.
Things haven’t changed.
You didn’t post anything about my supposed double standards either.
In case you haven’t noticed, I have done so over and over in the past. And all the time people ignored that for a good part or dismissed it.
Why this time would be different? You’d just ignore that or wave any inconvenient part with a meme, while I would have to go through the effort to find evidence that is already in this thread alone.
edit.
Tbh I think a lot of people don’t buy into your narrative.
“no one believes you” is, again, kinda a weird flex when you have posts of people (in this very thread!) saying that your narrative doesn’t add up.
What in the genuine Christ? Certain people here must be so incredibly bored to respond constantly and not think that maybe, just maybe, they’re acting quite a bit like a
I didn’t, no, because you go back into your illuminati posting, which I have no energy to argue with - hardly want this to become a reddit thread. But if you cannot see that you incite harassment on a group of people, where even you stated that has “ok” people in it - then yeah, its hardly useful to argue with.
No you haven’t, aside from “it is there, look it up”.
If you try to prove your point - back it up, simple as. Out of all years that you posted “pcu bad” - you have never provided a source, not even once. So yeah, give some evidence, even a small bit of it, to prove 2 points out of 4, at least.
You will be surprised
1 of those sees racism, where there is none, going on unhinged rants; another is an infamous doxxer and griefer that even you know about
If you cite such people as your “backup” - I am really sorry for you