It was long ago now, but if I recall properly it was the certain forumposter just dropping a bunch of coad blogs talking about how the PCu should be banned from WoW and how evil they were. While simultaneously trashposting on 3 seperate threads here at that point.
I kinda understand your point, but I just don’t think there is much of an issue or need. “Both sides” in this situation is a group of roleplayers that literally just want to continue roleplay, and the other is a bunch of individuals who continues to make a fuss about it and label them as “evil”.
This has been done many times already. Alot of various PCU guilds have several times openly stated that if people have issues with members to just contact them. And players that have been an issue have been kicked or otherwise handled.
I did, multiple times on multiple channels. At best I got a response that they were looking into it, but as per policy they couldn’t elaborate further. At worst, I got a threat post from a GM telling me I would be banned if I spoke about the person. (which I then reported to Blizzard through other channels and never heard from that GM again).
Just as I also reported the individual who went on a rampage across several threads saying I abused my children and should be killed. Because I told that individual in another thread that I supported LGBTQ+ rights.
That individual was also highlighted on a certain blog as a “perfect example of good roleplay” and innocent person on the server.
This is very common on these forums overall honestly, even PCU aside. Someone makes a controversial(and in my opinion, often very bad take). Alot of people disagree with them.
Said person will then just whine how they are getting dog-piled and silenced because people disagree. Which lately also usually ends up with them saying everyone is PCU because two other posters happened to roleplay together once or something.
Ah yes, the everyone who I dislike is a PCU mole hot take. Bonus points for when it’s everyone who decides to post in the same forum thread or just don’t agree with the alleged bully victim.
The funniest example yet is the one Telaryn(I think) posted in another thread where 2 seperate groups of roleplayers in-game who both stated that they hate the PCU, argued with eachother that the other group was PCU.
I’m with you here, freedom to post and so on - but where does one make the cut and it becomes to dangerous, to put it bluntly? Does the PCU has a policy about brigading through the discord or any other platform? The PCU is very interconnected with each guild, who guarantees that this will not explode in a nasty fashion? I don’t think that normally people have to fear anything about the PCU, but when things get serious, this can easily abused.
I do personally think we’re going in circles now regarding this topic, it really comes down in either having a strict policy or allowing people to express themselves. I don’t think there is a compromise which would benefit anyone.
So, in the end, it’s just a forum game for likes? This is incredibly silly. But do you think the PCU has an image problem or it’s the envious crowd? Or both?
Sounds good to me.
That’s awful to hear. I’m aware of questionable GMs, I had one time a problem with them about a word I used during Battle for Azeroth and the official “naming” of the Teldrassil event, which is apparently against the rules while the developers use it in their interviews.
Sorry to hear that too, they are really stingy with things at times.
The coinflip of wether you get someone reasonable or not is so strange at times. Most of the time its pretty standard customer support. Sometimes its someone great. Sometimes, it’s just strangely awful.
Yes it does, but it’s moreso just common sense and not a strict policy. Members either realize when they’re about to go overboard with something and stop, themselves, or officers step in to take a more firm action.
Of course people will disagree what’s still too much and what’s still too mild, but that’s the state of it.
Misread the last part. I just spaced out for a moment and thought about “forum likes”.
These same people will treat your brand of tribalism as being a stupid fixation that very few reasonable people are interested in at this point and will call it out. This isn’t some minority of fence sitters, it’s everyone who isn’t in the PCU, is active within the AD community (In-game, forums, discords, reddit, whereever) and dislike the topic because it’s an incredibly boring dead horse that people have beaten to death and which even the PCU tried to repeatedly address. Well, until they just gave up, rightly so, after seeing as they don’t need the good will of the likes of you to operate and flourish.
So the PCU tried to address the problems, read I this correctly? I have never seen postings about this, to be frank. I’m sure there are people out there who argue in bad faith against the PCU and have a personal grudge against the group, either for having the “better RP-quality” or taking “quality people” away. But as far as I understand, the PCU is a massive commitment which isn’t something many people are up to. I actually had an interested in the Bilgewater Cartel in the past but I do love switching around characters regularly if I have enough of the Vulpera, so there is no chance I can keep up the required “up time” regularly. I know from the trade chat that people love to jump onto the PCU hate but that’s nothing new.
Really just depends on the guild for that one. Some have requests. All however completely understand that some may rp alts. Or divert time in between for other things. If anything it would be a polite dm from your guild’s officers whether you’re okay or could potentially pop by every now and then.
COAD just mimics and pretends to be concerned about issues like misogyny, homophobia etc simply to fuel their narrative - there is not a shred of leftism in that blog, so I have to disagree. If that blog genuinely cared about these serious issues they would approach and expose these things realm-wide, not just within one set community. And I can guarantee anyone who has been on AD for a while knows that there are plenty of problems that go beyond the PCU.
They also love to brag about “field agents” and “spies” but are somehow incapable of digging up dirt anywhere else.
I’m speaking generally here when I say: By all means, if you have evidence of someone doing egregious things in the PCU then go ahead, but make sure that also applies to the rest of the realm or else it just looks like a bitter personal vendetta. Which, given COADs history of diminishing serious issues that aren’t PCU-related, it most likely is.
In this case it wasn’t even bad apples. The poster tried to smear us multiple times (that wasn’t the only post on that subreddit Lilynore did, not to mention all the other toxic stuff this person did before) and people responded in comments.