The Introduction
What is ClassicPlus?
One of the toughest questions, since this word will result in the individual Classic community member, reasoning over his/her subjective opinion, to what the asnwer is.
Even Blizzard themselfs, has stated that they don’t know the answer.
Who does know the answer to this problem? And can this equation, that is ClassicPlus even be solved?
Is it possible to gather enough common denominators to merge seperate opinions into one game?
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My name is Mikkel.
To give a short backstory, i am currently 27 years old. I study Computer Science and are one of many WoW Classic enjoyers.
I pay my bills, support my hobbies, and spend time with my family and girlfriend. Nothing out of the ordinary, i might be just like you.
I rarely post on forums, however this subject holds me near.
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I did not play classic way back when. My mom would’nt let me pay every month for a game. The whole subscription model were not common at the time.
So if not driven by the nostalgia, why do i play Classic, and prefer that over the current iteration (retail wow)?
I quote…
When the game does not require much of you, other than playing it, you get the surplus to start enjoying every moment.
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Thoughts, ideas, possible solutions:
When it comes to ClassicPlus, i would like to present, what i think most Classic Community members think is, a good iteration of such version of the game.
If at any point you feel like i relate to your opinion on this version of the game, i would strongly recommend leaving a like, and posting a comment of your own Pros & Cons.
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Throughout vanilla, many ideas were scrapped. That would only make sense for a newly developed game.
What i think the majority wants, is still the Classic feeling, but with a breath of fresh air. Like an old room getting the walls painted. The room stays the same, but the sensation of it feels completetly new.
The RuneScape Example
Before i start listing possible features for a new iteration of Classic WoW, i would like to present, what i think is a good example of keeping the core elements in check.
For those who don’t know, RuneScape is a game older than most new parents today.
To describe what they do, in short terms, they created an old version of their game called OldSchool RuneScape. (OSRS for short)
OSRS is a base model of the old operational game. The old game philosophy stays the same, which they iterate on, and have done so successfully.
OSRS have managed to retain hundreds of thousands of players over the years, and are to this day, in my humble opinion, the BEST game at retaining player numbers and even gathering new players.
With a game Like World of Warcraft which has a !Massive! playerbase, this should somewhat be achieveable aswell i believe.
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The List
- Starting Zones
New starting zones for Dwarf and troll. This includes:
- IronForge Airfield, a vanilla secret location.
- Senjin village, for trolls.
- Maybe Gnomergan, as it was intended also as a vanilla Starting Location for Gnomes?
Only the imagination is the limit here really.
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- Locations
So being the lazy computer science student that i am, i wanna re-use a well written description of some secret places and assets that were in the original game. All this content is just out there. It is ready for use.
Hyjal
(Aka. World Tree)
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- Info:
Hyjal Summit rises high above northern Kalimdor, surrounded by Winterspring, the Moonglade,
and Felwood. The mountain’s twin peaks are the highest points on Kalimdor and home to Nordrassil,
the massive World Tree. Blizzard implemented a “No Man’s Land” teleport that removes you from the
zone. There exists a small picket fence which indicates that this area is “Under Construction”
Gamemaster Island
(Aka. GM island or GM isle)
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- Info:
Gamemaster Island is a mysterious place designed to serve as a hangout for Blizzard’s Game Masters. It is
located to the far northwest of Teldrassil, surrounded by unmapped space between itself and the main
continent, making it completely impossible to reach without model editing or hacking.Underneath GM Island,
embedded in the lower structure of the island, is a hidden room. This room is completely textured with
large white tiles and illuminated with one single light source, leaving a bright circular spot of light in
the center of the room’s floor. There are no objects in the room anymore, there was a chair before 2.4 but
then it got deleted for some reason.
Silithus Farm
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On the very most south west coast of Kalimdor, near Silithus there is a small, uninhabited Tauren village.
Two canoes lie at the shore and a windmill overlooks the whole place, there is also a tent. Nearby to the
east is a also small cave network that seems to go beneath Ahn’Qiraj. However, the caves are entirely empty
save for piles of bones of various sizes, although whilst some could conceivably be from
a Tauren.
The Ring of Valor
(Aka. Orgrimmar Arena)
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- Info:
The Ring of Valor is a massive gladiatorial arena located in the Valley of Honor in Orgrimmar. Arena
was supposed to serve the same purpose as the Gurubashi Arena, except there would be no treasure in
the middle. The used version of Orgrimmar arena is highly different, it has a larger scale and is
the only arena designed to allow mounts.
Shatterspear Village
(Aka. Shatterspear Troll Village or Dancing Troll Village)
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- Info:
Shatterspear Village is a little village inhabited by trolls of the Shatterspear tribe. The village can
be seen from the hippogryph when flying to or from Nighthaven, Moonglade. The settlement is in the
mountains between Darkshore, Moonglade, Felwood and Winterspring. Some trollsdance and seem to be
celebrating some kind of festivity. Aside from the main populace, there are four notable characters,
including Una Ji’ro, Jory Zaga, Krah’ranik and Voriya. A Tauren head can be seen hanging by a rope stake
on dancefloor.
Shrine of the Fallen Warrior
(Koiter’s grave)
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- Info:
Shrine of the Fallen Warrior is a memorial to Michel Koiter, a Blizzard employee who died during the development of
World of Warcraft. It is a stone obelisk is engraved with the initials “MK”. If you visit the grave you can see a
spirit healer in front of it called Koiter.
Stonetalon Logging Camp
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A small, nearly inaccessible coastal zone west of the Stonetalon Mountains and surrounded by mountains on the
western coast of Kalimdor. Has been mentioned as being a splinter Pandaren Settlement, as potential starting area for a new race.
“Pandarian”. This area is similar to Elwynn falls as its viewable while taking a taxi flight, and was presumably intended as
eye candy for the long flights that pass through this area.
Stonetalon Ruins and cave
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- Info:
A part of Logging camp. Place has elfish ruins, a small lake and a broken boat.
Tanaris Underwater village
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- Info: Deep down in the sea floor in Tanaris lies a strange goblin village. In alpha there were probably an island and after it got removed, the
buildings still remained. When visiting be careful, because if you hit the ground you will die.
Teldrassil Furbold camp
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- Info: A small Furbold camp down in the Teldassil. Reachable by jumping down from the tree. Has usually some Furbolds on it
Old Ironforge
(Aka. Hall or Assembly of Thanes)
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In the High Seat area of Ironforge, there is a hidden door behind Deliana.
This hidden door leads to a long hallway descending to the underground
chamber of Old Ironforge. Old Ironforge consists of a large column of stone
in a pool of lava. At the top is a carpeted platform, and a path winds
down around the column to two closed doors. The ceiling features large purple crystal formations.
Ironforge’s kings are buried in the Hall of Thanes, and the old throne is here as well.
Wetlands mountain camp
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- Info:
A small camp in top of a mountain near Grim Batol. On the Northside of the mountain theres a HELP
written to the ground with grass and stones. The guys who were trapped on top of this mountain had set
up a camp which still lies broken on top of the mountain, unfortunately there are also two skeletons on
the ground.
Ironforge airport
(Aka. Dun Morogh airfield)
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- Info:
The Dun Morogh airfield is an airfield located in a high mountain valley northeast of the dwarven
capital of Ironforge. It has two landing strips, and several gnome pilots are there standing next
to their planes or tinkering with them. Around the airfield there are a series of dwarven buildings
and structures. Mountaineers from Ironforge patrol the area, and some members of the Stormpike Guard
can be found here too. North of the airfield there is a gryphon roost, but it is inactive and does
not offer a flight path. Further north, near Wetlands, there is a crashed gnome plane along with
some bones.
Wetlands Farm
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- Info:
The Wetlands farm is in southwestern Wetlands roughly south of Menethil Harbor usually reachable by
falling down the mountainside from near the Ironforge Airport. This is a series of small farmland
plots around a pond at the base of a tall waterfall. The area itself is on a plateau above normal Wetlands
areas. You can tell this area is not finished because the hills and valleys east of this area have
strange unfinished looking textures. There is also a signpost with three directions: “This way”,
“The other way” and “That way.” If you follow the road you’ll get to a tunnel which leads to nowhere.
Ortell’s Hideout
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Ortell’s Hideout is normally a small cave located in southeastern Silithus where Hermit Ortell resides.
In Dun Morogh mountains there lies a hidden version of this cave in the mountain. Upon entering this
cave the player enters Silithus general chat.
Secret Stranglethorn Cave
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Stranglethorn cave is a small cave in mountain range south of Zul’Gurub. There is a road which leads to
the cave but the place is mostly unfinished. If you walk around the place you’ll see floting trees and
strange hills. Theres also waterfall nearby the cave.
Stormwind Falls
(aka. Elwynn Falls)
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- Info:
Waterfall and house, high above Elwynn Forest nearby the river which leads to Northshire. Up to the
waterfall there is a little camp with fire, tent, boat and some stuff. Up to the hills there is a house
whichis well known as “impossible” to reach. Hippogryphs fly over this river while flying from Stormwind
to Ironforge so this place is mostly ment to be just a flyover place.
Well of the Forgotten
(Aka. Karazhan Crypt or Lower Karazhan)
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- Info:
This crypt lies behind the tower of Karazhan in Deadwind Pass, in the cemetery at Morgan’s Plot. It
is stretching deep underground in a labyrinthine series of rooms. In my oppinion this is the most
horrific places in the whole WoW. Easily the most horrific chamber is the “Upside Down Sinners”
-a large water-filled room with dead people attached to chains floating upside-down, feet pointing
towards the ceiling. In some rooms you can hear a faint hearthbeat sound loop and that really scary.
Some says that this instance was closed due to keep the age rating for the game.
Arathi Highlands Dwarven Farm
(Aka. Arathi Highlands Farm)
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- Info:
Arathi Highlands Dwarven Farm is a small farm on the far east coast of Arathi Highlands. Two Dwarven
Farmers, some rams and critters used live on the farm until patch 3.0.2 when they were removed by unknown
reason.
Newsmans’s Landing
(Aka. Westfall house)
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- Info:
Newman’s Landing is a small area off the west coast of Dun Morogh. In the coast there lies a small house.
Before 3.0.2 there were no mobs but now in 3.0.2 this location is now classed as Dun Morogh, and a
Goblin with the voice of a Gnome by the name of High Admiral “Shelly” Jorrik stands at the dock
accompanied by two Booty Bay Bruisers. He is able to sell Blacksmithing Supplies and can repair.
Undercity Top Tier
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- Info:
A corridor which goes all around undercity. Added into game for unknown reason.
Quel’Thalas island
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- Info:
A coastline camp with an elfish tower, brick and temple. Can be reached by swimming.
Cut-Throat Alley
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-Info:
In the dwarven district theres a house which leads to an alley called Cut-throat Alley. There are completely no people in the alley,
even when theres a little house on end of it. The alley is also marked on the Stormwind map.
Dun Morogh plane camp
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- Info:
A small flightover place with a plane and a little camp. Eyecandy as the ones before.
Dun’Morogh’s Troll cave
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- Info: A cave with one troll riding a road nexto it with a wolf and another troll
just camping near the cave. The place is seen by flying from Wetlands to Ironforge, so its mostly an eyecandy.
Left to the cave theres a crashed gnome plane, what a surprise… It has even bones and equipment of its pilot down to it.
Forgotten gnome camp
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- Info: A camp with a tent and a random spiderish robot, its next to Gnome & Dwarf’s starting place just up in the mountains.
Emerald Dream
(Aka. Emerald Forest or Verdant fields)
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169 -2128.12 -1005.89 132.213 The Verdant Fields
169 2732.93 -3319.63 101.284 Emerald Forest Trees
169 -70 3000 101 Spawn point
- Info:
Emerald dream is an unfinished end-game instance. It’s mostly a place full of green mountains. Some parts of Emerald Dream have
been worked on like the statue, verdant fields, Spiral fields and Emerald Forest. Emerald Dream is an important part of Druids lore
in Warcraft. Currently the Emerald Dream is only explorable in Quest “Hope Within the Emerald Nightmare”, and that encompasses only
a small section of Moonglade.
Deeprun Tram Aquarium
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- Info:
The aquarium in middle of the deeprun tram tunnel. There used to be a waterdragon, Nessy and a goblin explorer with a diving suit
but they got removed. Also there are some broken ships and a chest which doesn’t contain anything. People used to get there by
using “/sit /stand” lag macro before it got fixed.
Azhara Crater
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- Info:
Azshara Crater was planned as a future Battleground located in Azshara. It was likely to be in southern Azshara,
in the Forlorn Ridge. It was intended to work in a similar fashion to Alterac Valley. The BG is divided into three
areas, one Horde, one Alliance and one Neutral.
Old Scarlet Monastery
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- Info:
Blizzard designed the SM to be a connected instance, whit connected i mean that all the 4 parts of SM were
ment to be together when release came out but everything didn’t come out like that. Blizzard wanted the
parts of the SM be seperated to easier and harder parts. Althought the Old SM still exists ingame and it
has pretty great looking graphics and amazing story to tell. I myself prefer this better than seperated SM.
The real SM is connected too but not the same way as old SM; all the 4 instances are on same map so with XYZ
you can fly from cathedral to graveyard.
Stormwind Vault
(Aka. Stormwind Jail or Prison)
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- Info:
The Stormwind Vault is a prison within the human capital of Stormwind, it is a lot bigger scale than the
stockades and it has more graphical work. The instance portal was removed in beta but the instance still
remains unused in WoW. The place is titled strangely “The Stockade: Stormwind Vault”.
Outland testing area
(Aka. Deadmine’s Outland)
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- Info:
Secret Outlands testing area outside of the mountain where the instance Deadmines is located.
Area was found out before the Burning Crusade expansion and it was ment to be a floating rocks and
Hellfire Peninsula stylish ground test.