What is next for the TBC cash shop?

Some insight on why buying power/progress can be bad:

  • A prerequisite for high satisfaction and rewarding sensations from accomplishments is effort, dedication and struggle to achieve the accomplishment.

  • If the accomplishment can be achieved without effort, dedication and struggle, then it holds no significant value. You do not get that high satisfaction/rewarding sensation. Game-play loses MEANING and you will probably stop engaging in the gameplay (why should you dedicate significant time into leveling 10 characters, grind out good gear, collectibles, if that other guy got equivalent accomplishments without any dedication whatsoever? Suddenly rare feats become commonplace=unvaluable.

  • Shortcuts or skips to advancement, power gain can also set a twisted expectation for players. After players receive great rewards with minimal effort, the same is expected in other parts of the game, or new parts of the game. A demand for streamlined content, or “shortcuts” rises. The value of dedication in in-game activity is watered down and there is little meaning to the dedication or time investment into the game. The game is suddenly much less rewarding, and although we may not recognize it instantaneously, it has less meaning to us.

It is important that external purchases or other external forces do not lower the value of the gameplay. Advancement in character progression, and access to lucrative in-game items via external shop are examples that do lower the value of gameplay aspects.

Sadly i think the vast majority of wow players (retail or classic, same thing) only care about end game content. Raiding / Arena / BG.

I think that might have to do with the fact that wow do not attract new players because it is so outdated and because current players already did the leveling gig a hundred times.

It’s a bit sad. But that is what it is.

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I’m not a fan of those things either, and have never used or partaken in them, and never will :slight_smile: . I think they’ve been sort of unintended side effects of the No Changes. It was possible a long time ago, didn’t get fixed or tweaked then (because abuse was obviously far less rampant) so do you then change it now, or keep it as it was originally? I fully understand addressing things like that when you’ve said you’d deliver the game as closely as you could to the original is complex.

But that’s exactly my beef with this. It’s as if that philosophy suddenly got chucked in the bin, and the gloves came off regarding the cash shop. I would have liked an explanation why that is, why that suddenly is perfectly fine. And for some things I can think that up myself, of course I understand the boost is great for those who weren’t particularly fond of vanilla or leveling in it, but loved TBC. I’m not begrudging them the boost in that sense, I hope they have a great time.

I don’t agree with the direction they suddenly seem to dive into. And I don’t need any streamers for that, it’s simply my own opinion and I have been skeptical of cash shops in games since they’ve been a thing. Personally I really liked not having it in Classic.

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I myself am skeptical of in-game item shops, but even SWTOR (which lives off it’s cash shop) has any items that fall under “pay 2 win” or “pay 2 gain power” and SWTOR’s shop is absolutely insane.

So if EA the most greedy scummers on the earth has avoided giving it’s players the option to buy power straight out, I don’t think Acti/Blizz will do it either.

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edit: posted in the wrong thread

I’m not worried about that myself, I feel Blizzard has always been sensitive and sensible enough to keep an eye on the fine line and not cross it. In that sense, yep it’s just cosmetics or skips of content in Classic, I’m aware it could be much worse.

For me it’s a sense of the in game world being a whole within itself. Everything that is in it, should come directly from it. For me cash shops break that unity and integrity of the world, its rules get changed for convenience’s sake. I personally find that a really poor reason. Instead of it enriching a virtual world, it cheapens it. Subjective opinion obviously, but it is what it is :wink:

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Them losing players is nothing new. It happens every expansion when a patch have been out for a long time. And WoW isn’t the only game out there. People will take a break, play something else and then come back for the new patch. Your way of thinking is flawed, cause its almost like you think WoW is the only game out there.

That sounds like a you problem, not ours.
“I don’t have time to play MMORPG, so, just let me skip content for money!”

Dude, who cares your irl schedule? Why should the game adapt to your personal needs? The playerbase asked for vanilla, and for TBC after, neither had tokens or boosts. Download fortnite, or minecraft and enjoy the non-leveling system (I bet you would cry a river there for machineguns and nukes, becaue “YOu DoNt hAvE enOuGh TimE tO PlaY!!!”). WoW is not your genre, simple as that. Bye. :wave:

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Yes once they progress to cata. Until then you know where the version that has transmog is.

Dog classic has a Boost. Levels are power.

Well said!

Imagine trying to think tbc is going to be the same 2nd time around, especially when you’ve played classic and know that wasn’t the same 2nd time around.

Hmm why should Blizzard target older audience with families and jobs? Maybe its because most WoW vets are exactly like that :wink: and they usually have money. Its relatively broad group of audience. Its like saying clothes shops should not target fat people because its their fault being fat.

Jobless basement dwellers who play 12 hours a day yelling “this is our game” and “don’t play if you don’t have time” always get me :wink:

Blizzard defines who is their target audience, not you.

Don’t be such a judgemental moron. You have 0 evidence that he is a “jobless basement dweller”. People like you who throw out insults backed by no evidence are the reason the phrase “keyboard warrior” exists. Giving it 10 online when you’d crumble in person.

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Look at his aggresive post. On aggresion you need to answer with aggresion too, people like that don’t understand arguments :wink:

You could also do with answering in an educated manner instead of spelling the words “aggressive” and “aggression” wrong. Not to mention meeting aggression with more aggression is the opposite of what you’re supposed to do. That is something most people learn by their early adult life.

English isn’t my first language. Its totally fine for me to spell wrong sometimes :wink:

That approach you suggest is effective in real world. Definitely not effective on forums where people are anonymous. I figured that out a long time ago. I like to argue with someone in a civil manner but if I see post like that I know arguments have no place here. If someone throws rockets on you you can’t respond with diplomacy :wink:

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I can tell by your excessive use of the winking emoji that you’re not too bright. You’ve also said “That approach you suggest is effective in real world” which means nothing because I didn’t suggest an “approach”. I said meeting aggression with more aggression is not what you do. It’s simply asinine. You can’t be much older than 20, am I right?

Oh here we are, insults already? Ouch. This starts to be a little aggressive, doesn’t it? :wink: