Needing to spend only 4 hours to get full honor gear and jump directly into arena is amazing. And conquest is capped really quickly too so it won’t take too long catchup up later in the season
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Maybe I expressed myself not well enough.
We had non-rated solo shuffle before the rated one. People need to think why they introduced rating for it and why people did not just “play for fun” the first version of it.
Gear improvement? Fun trinkets? Variety? Simply character progression?
Not sure if you are aware of what you are saying. I don’t have an issue with MMORPGs at all, it’s more I have an issue with the MMORPG elements being removed, to cater players who are barely playing anyway and/or are not willing to get the full gear (like in SL).
I understand the point of having “equal” playing field (which will never be equal in the first place) but I saw many MMORPGs doing that. It didn’t end well long term. (means they always did worse than WoW)
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I think you are unaware of the fact that conquest gear can be upgraded with honor.
Na, you just unaware of the fact it’s not just lower ilvl but also by that time you have full conquest gear + upgraded, you are already BIS M+ geared. The upgrading of PvP gear is just a huge troll.
So upgrading conquest gear for PvE is absolutely pointless.
No it dosent. In pve achievements are less relevant than in pvp.
and then you said:
for 3v3
and then you said:
Wich just proves that less skill is required in solo shuffle compraed to ‘‘dead’’ 3v3 and that SS rating is inflated as f***.
and there premade groups facerolls and farm randoms…
what use is pvp gear to me if other players are blown away 5vs1 one after the other?
or should I play those embarrassing “epic” bgs where everyone runs to the PVE boss like crazy chickens and bg is almost over without a PVP fight???
How is this not pvp? pvp is player vs player. Is solo shuffle filled with npc or bots like a dungeon or what? I think you use the term pvp and dont even know what it means
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Did you play solo shuffle? At low rating the answer is 100% yes. Actually worse, a student could code a better bot than what I saw “people” playing there.
Yes but the thing is, you get the gear in the match itself, you dont get the gear from having a high rank. In LoL you could play unranked and still buy the same gear in a match. Imagine the popularity of lol if only the highest ranked player could buy the best gear and unranked people were only allowed to buy the lowest tier items during matches. Thats how it would be with the previous wow pvp gearing system.
Comparing gear disparity in lol with wow doesnt work
Its still pvp, no matter the skill lvl of the player in it. Saying SS isnt pvp is like saying a lower difficulty of m+ or raiding isnt pve
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It was the same as in SL except it’s spread over a longer period of time because it’s an mmo. The point is that people like gear upgrades in rpg type games.
This is what makes it completely different. imagine having to go into pvp naked, earning your gear into every single match. The amount of gear depending on how many hk you get in the match while being naked. And then when the match is over your gear gets deleted again. No rank required to get your gear at all
Its an entirely different system than WoW gearing. LoL never blocked non ranked players from buying gear. Wow did, wich is why the current pvp is pretty damned great for alot of people. Except previous high ranked players wich dont get to stomp worse geared people anymore
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No one is blocked from buying gear, especially with solo shuffle where it’s easy to get rating. The only people happy about this change are those who only do random bgs or pve mains who just want to dabble in pvp every once in a while.
Na, you just take the meaning of PvP too literal. If someone plays worse than a bot or is not able to even come up with any actual play but only spams his PvE rotation, then you can hardly call it PvP.
I am not saying SS is not PvP, I am just explaining to you that PvP =/= PvP just because there are people involved. Every PvPer will probably agree that he had at least one match where he would have rather played with bots than those people 
They will still stomp the plebs. The skill difference is just beyond funny.
yeah just like the elitist pvpers in this topic take gear to literal. just slap on some fishing gear and you got your gear right?
pvp content is player vs player. Thats what it means, there is no issue with taking it too literal or not. lower rankings are still pvp, world pvp is still pvp, unranked bgs are still pvp.
Yes , but its skillbased now instead of gear based. I’m not sure why you defend blocking lower rankings and unranked from proper pvp gear. just because there are some terrible players doesnt mean everyone who doesnt do ranked arenas deserves to be stomped due to unfair advantages.
Pvp gear being locked behind a high rating is the same as only mythic raiding should give good gear. The rest of the pve content including m+ should just give 340 ilvl items because its not real pve
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Be the best.
You just take everything too literal while ignoring the fact there is more to it. People have common sense, there is no reason to explain every single word with a wall of text. It comes with experience, no worries.
Guess it’s a mentality thing. Gotta work for your stuff, you know? Not getting everything for free.
This is true but there should be some work involved getting the gear. (or the max gear)
This is how it always was, for a very good reason. Yet, you still don’t get best PvE gear for afking. Which is a good thing.
You analogy is beyond wrong. If you want to compare PvP to PvE, do it properly.
Raid = BGs
M+ = Arena
Now BGs and Arenas have both rated mode, with best gear you can get.
You on the other hand asking for M+ not have good gear, for whatever reason. not sure why you want ilvl 340.
Now let’s take a look how it is outside of the competitive PvE environment. Oh… look at this?! World quest and all the non-sense does not provide the same gear as M+ or or mythic raids… who would have thought?
TLDR
I like char progression and to work for my stuff (which is why I play MMORPGs in the first place), you like everything for free or least effort. Different people, different opinion.
Thanks for saying you are a troll. Either that or you are too dumb to grasp the definition of pvp. There is nothing to take too literal about a simple term like that. Its not some vague saying
Very ironic of you calling me dumb while obviously failing to comprehend easy context.