I don’t wait.
Boss dies & Loot window opens.
I loot boss for any other items they can potentially drop (rep items, pets, Dragon transmogs) & then check loot window, by this time most players gave made their decision & I go from there.
Being the first or last person to click greed makes no difference to the outcome of the roll.
Because I am not an enchanter and I don’t find the need to sell the item nor to trade it with friends. So I pass on items
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How does the game determine the main spec need and off spec need rolls? Sorry, I don’t know how the system works because we use an addon to auto pass all loot and distribute it after.
Thanks for the reply. And that is an interesting example, but what if:
- 1st boss drop OH, warlock roll “greed” because he doesn’t have a MH, priest roll “need” and won.
- 2nd boss drop 2H staff, and the 2H staff is an upgrade for the priest, compared to his old MH + new OH. so both warlock and priest roll “need” and priest won again.
so in the end, priest won both and warlock got nothing.
can you blame the priest for rolling “need” both time? no, because the OH was an upgrade for him when it dropped from 1st boss. And the 2H is another upgrade again for him.
Hunters and Rogues rolling “greed” on caster weapons is not “steal”.
They didn’t roll “need” and can’t “need” a caster weapon, if anyone needs the weapon and roll “need”, the hunters and rogues will never get it.
In your case, you only roll “greed” not “need”, because it is a “potential upgrade”. But how do they know that?
How can they know if anyone in the raid wants it for “potential upgrade”? especially in a Pug group like LFR and everyone is a stranger. Should they inspect everyone’s gear or ask everyone in raid before roll?
If nobody in the raid needs it for any upgrade or transmog, and there is no enchanter in raid, then why can’t they roll “greed” just for the gold?
Your example may work in an organized group of friends or guildies, but certainly rarely works in PuG group like LFR.
Which also is the context of where a Pass is useful, contra pugging with goblins where everything becomes “Need if possible, otherwise Greed”.
First of all. Those are YOUR loot rules, there are no hard and fast rules where looting is concerned. Different guilds and servers will have variations on the riles and there may be specific rules for a particular run.
Not all rolled for loot can be vendored (eg Mount in CoS IIRC) so passing on the loot is less bothersome than winning it and then having to delete the item.
In an organized group of friends or guildies, any loot mode would work.
Everyone can roll need on everything, and then distribute loots as whatever they want.
Rolls don’t even matter, let alone “pass”.
That is a very valid reason and I accept that.
It is in organised groups that rolls actually matters in terms of efficient dynamic distribution of loot without having to trade individually, which is far slower.
Yes, that I can agree.
I press need for every transmog I see that i haven’t.
Absolutely, cosmetic > everything else 
This is what these buttons mean to me
Need: Important drop that I would really like to have
Greed: Not necessary but I would like to get this piece (offspec, transmog etc)
Pass: Means one is not that desperate for a few gold that they would would Greed on gear just to vendor it.
In the context of a run with a group of friends:
Sure, this is a preferable outcome.
So far so fine.
At this point, assuming we still is operating within the context of a group of friends, this would be rude. Priest knows based on Warlock’s OH Greed roll that the Warlock indeed might be looking for a Weapon upgrade, and will either wait for the Warlock to roll Need on the Staff or ask them directly.
Warlock rolling Need means the Staff is an upgrade for the Warlock.
Since the Priest already got an upgrade the last boss, despite being a half upgrade compared to the upgrade potential of the Staff, the Priest will Pass and give the Staff to the Warlock to even out the amount of upgrade the group as a whole gets from the instance.
Going further, any eventual Intellect Dagger, Intellect Mace (which Warlock can’t equip anyway, and assuming Priest is the healer or no competition from eventual Holy Paladins or Resto Shamans/Druids in the group), or Wand dropping from coming bosses, whether it be the current or coming instances, will be given to the Priest.
I pass often on loot idc about that little amount of gold tbh
That is why people don’t complain about Group Loot in guild or friend groups.
People complain about it for PuGs like LFR.
And those “rude behavior” is almost guaranteed. People ofc will roll “need” on an item if it is an upgrade for him, not matter how many items he already got.
You missed the context of the example!
Again:
In LFR/PuGs greeding is about as successful as passing, the outcome is the same. People will need all the items they can.
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The only true endgame that persists through xpacs and time.
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u click pass if ur bags are full ?
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