Hey guys! im pretty casual in wow and pretty much pvp oriented. I mean back in the day i liked raiding and pve content(i think, i raided up to WOD here and there), i like it in classic as a weekly to-do…but for now and last years i have absolutly no motivation for it. And thats because of 4 different difficulties and personal loot, atleast i think these are the reasons.
IMO:
It gives me no motivation to do normal or heroic when i know there is higher difficulty with better loot.
Mythic is to hard …i mean i play on a high pop EU Server and legit only 17 gilds cleared it after that long.
Personal loot and the amount of loot for everyone and so many versions(lfr,normal,heroic,mythic) of 1 item make getting loot boring and the meaning of an item nonexistent for me.
extra Shadowlands problem: “cant” use trinkets in pvp, Every other gearing method is way better and more chilled (i dont know about high end m+ but what i hear is pvp is way better getting gear).
I get it blizzard stretches the content with higher difficulty, keeping up the sub count. Back in the day u cleared and geared your character unsubbed or leveled/raided with an alt.
I believe most of the mythic raiders like the challenge of m-raiding and clearing hard stuff?
I would love to have raiding in my weekly routine and chasing for that 1 rare item Bow,2handed, trinket or whatever but in my world there is no reason or motivation to raid atm.
So im asking you what is the motivation of Mythic-Raiding? Do am i in the minority with that opinions? Because im casual i seriosly dont know, thats the reason why im asking here.
Maybe my motivation will come back for raiding …
well Mythic raiding is a whole other category of content. Its like pvp at 2.4k+, or m+ at +20 keys. Its not for everyone. Its not even for the majority. Its for hardcore tryhards who will genuinely spend all their efforts and time into Mythic raiding.
I agree on the motivation point, i hate gearing when i know there’s better gear out there, but lets be real, if you’re 220 from heroics and not 227 from mythic its alright. A casual guild can clear mythic eventually but most guilds should be happy to down a few bosses in Mythic before the next raid. Other than that you can clear heroic through pugs or a decent guild and thats more than enough for me at least.
As for the loot systems and pvp-pve gear, its a mess this expansion sure, but again, it is what it is. We deal with it and if you hate it just play less or reevaluate your expectations for your own health.
This answer will obviously differ for each individual. But to me, the primary motivation to raid Mythic is that I’ve always been violently against the mindset of “it’s just a game”. Yes, it is just a game - therefore you obviously want to be as good as possible at it otherwise you’re just wasting your time.
Mythic raiding is the hardest PvE content available in the game and therefore the only content which feels fulfilling to take part in, all of the other difficulties are just a means to an end/tourist mode of the dungeon to prepare for the actual content.
Additionally, I feel that there is a certain allure to having my life go in phases, where I plan around raiding and playing more after work during the relatively short amount of time that Mythic progression lasts, to then be able to prioritize family and friends during farm periods - it provides variation which in turn makes me even more motivated to perform well at work, be a better partner for the Ms., and be a better friend/family member.
In the end, playing the game this way allows me to spend less time on World of Warcraft than the average John that struggles in Heroic/Lower-end Mythic and at the same time beat the games hardest PvE content - a win/win situation.
For me, it’s about defeating the most difficult pve content in the game (not counting m+ since it scales infinitely). Honestly one of the best feelings I’ve ever had in WoW was killing Argus on Mythic difficulty, after 300 attempts over several weeks. I also generally appreciate the guild-wide community effort towards a common goal, and how that effort also takes place between raid nights to discuss tactics, raid CDs, review logs etc.
On xpac release I play a lot, try out most of the content the game has to offer while I’m gearing up but at this point I’m only logging on during raid night as there’s not much benefit for me to do other content anymore. While there’s some gear that I would benefit greatly from it’s from pvp and I don’t really have much motivation to raise my pvp rating.
My guild only dabbles a bit in early mythic bosses. I love it for the extra challenge, i like when something isnt just a walkover and takes some time for us to learn and kill. I dont do it for the loot, i do it for the challenge and to have something to do in this game.
Doing mythic raiding for loot is hopeless unless you can reach the 2 last bosses pretty quickly and get 233 loot.
For me mythic raiding is equal to very social content since it requires you to be part of a guild to participate. And WoW is just 1000x more fun and effortless if you are being social. 99.9% of the drama in here and in game is based on PUGs with random people. So if you are social and play with the same people you will have a much easier time participating in M+, Raiding and PvP.
I’m not a mythic raider, but there’s a part of me that’s tempted purely for the sense of personal achievement that comes from clearing difficult content.
However, my guild isn’t interested in raiding, and the community I HC raid with isn’t interested in progressing to mythic. To do it, I would have to find another guild to raid with, which would likely mean gradually losing touch with my current guildies and probably also with the people I currently raid with. That thought makes me sad and I won’t do it.
I guess the social aspect of WoW is more important to me than pushing myself to the most difficult personal achievements, and that’s why I’m not a mythic raider. If my current groups of friends wanted to mythic raid, I would jump right in.
you sound like me, both in terms of motivation for wanting to do mythic and why you’re not doing it. i think the interest being in progressing the content itself rather than the loot or titles is a much healthier source of motivation.
i was interested but not so interested that i’d leave my heroic guild. once it fell apart, i went to mythic. and mythic is pretty social in my experience, but it’s new people when you join a new guild of course.
Unless it’s true… everyone who is able to compare warcraftlog statistics from previous tiers, can see that this tier is harder.
But I know that a majority of people here is unable to read basic graphs and do math based on their gut feeling rather than what they learned in school.
I don’t do Mythic because of the instance-ID lockout. Otherwise I’d have dipped my hoofs in it. Or toes. Depending on the toon I’m playing.
I may try to PuG a few Mythic bosses before the next content patch hits, who knows. If I do well enough I may even clear it before. Or not.
I’ve raided the toughest content before. I’ve been the “cutting edge”. I really enjoyed those times. But my life has changed, and there are other, more relevant things I need to be “the best” at.
I do mythic raiding because it’s the only difficult content I participate in. I don’t really care too much for m+, so I don’t care to push for high keys, and I don’t do PvP so arena is off the table. So I’m only left with mythic raiding as an option if I want to be challenged even in the slightest ways.
But honestly what keeps me going is the community and guild I raid with. If mythic was somehow clearable by pugs (another problem) I probably wouldn’t care enough to play with randoms like that. And if it was clearable by pugs, I also wouldn’t want to do it in a guild environment because it would take the challenge out of it. Overcoming the challenge as a group of people is what keeps me going.
game would just be better if m raiding wouldn’t exist.
Game didn’t need it back then either.
You could pug HC 25 and had moderate success, with raid buffs over the course of weeks to help succeeding.
Now devs waste time on m raidings just dance mechanics and tuning (and fail at that as well) for 0.1% of the player base. just lol
Mostly because our lead game potato is m raid logger and does nothing else in the game