What would it take to get players back?

should be the best solution. tam quam tabula rasa.

World of warcraft: a realm reborn

Better class design. More effort into class cosmetic rewards, make classes unique and stand out again with tier sets. None of this garbage ā€˜armor type’ sets that they’ve been trying to get away with.

Very little or no borrowed power at all. I think one thing mage tower has been very successful at is showing how awful and boring certain classes are without borrowed power.

Frequent class tuning. Nerf obvious overperformers or buff the obvious underperformers. People leaving a class and ultimately the game they’ve played for almost 2 decades because it is awful in the content they play and it’s not worth the grind of keeping up.

A good patch/game

It’s hard to bring an online game back that isn’t meta

FFXIV had a decent hype, almost mainstream and is on consoles even

For me? right now i’m back just for few mage tower challanges and i’m gone again
but for me to bring me back for a looong time again
they need to reveret gameplay to MOP version
and i’m gonna play
like i personally want back:
gems,reforging,more stats,more enchants on gear
more engame stuff in profesions
no forcing to play something
just let me craft for example PVP gear and join pvp like it used to be

As i said
just bring back MOP version of this game
and you can have my SUB

I came back after a break to see how this game is now. While I do like the game itself as far as mechanics go, the story is just horrible and that’s the reason I will not continue anymore but take another break. Perhaps for good. I will consider coming back at some point if they hire someone who’s not as lazy as the guys writing the stories now, all this retcon and Sylvanas and Sylvanas and the eternal bloody Sylvanas really rubs me the wrong way. I already stopped playing horde due to all these war crimes, I don’t want to be part of that kind of story in a rpg game.
And, last but not least, the good old classic trope when a mob stops fighting at 1 hp and simply walks away… I wrote better stuff when I was ten years old.
So, fix all that and I come back and perhaps, just perhaps, my guildies who already left will consider that too.

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Sad and true.

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Dropping the sub.
There are so many things to do out there:

  • real life (work, friends, love, family)
  • other games, grindy or casual
  • other fun: Youtube, Twitch, Netflix, music

I simply can’t get behind the idea of spending 13€ a month to play one hour a day. Or five hours a week.
For a while I thought it works, as I actually played WoW in contrast to GW2, however during the last 5 months I’ve played plenty of GW2 (and else) while I didn’t want to touch WoW so I didn’t. Even now, since my one hour session yesterday I’ve spent hours on Youtube, hours outside, about an hour ordering some Christmas gifts / decoration, two hours talking with friends, and now I’m considering to maybe play an hour before I get back to finish my flexible workday.

I’m sure like 98% of 100+ million account owners can relate.

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They should revert the game back to its original format before they introduced chromie and scaling and then make it free to play up to the last expansion. All those with subs should not need to do the older content and have an option to start at the latest expansion. All those that sub should get MONTHLY bonuses in the form of potions etc that grant massive benefits plus chances to get mounts, gear, transmogs through structured monthly events. But make it worth while. Mostly though the games developer wants to take serious note of what other games are doing and start appearing ā€˜GENEROUS’ instead of money grabbing and designing everything around a grind all the time.

Also if players levelling actually felt they were getting stuff of value and on a regular basis they would be more likely to keep playing. And returning players that have been away a while should get booster packs of gear and weapons.

I’m only suggesting what other games do. It is very annoying that having purchased every version of this game, plus the deluxe versions and subbed since 2008 that when my sub elapses I have access to twenty levels of this game and no access to any of my previously purchased games plus my characters. It sucks big time and just makes me so angry. In every other game I play I can log and play with my characters. Not necessarily end game but I can still use the stuff I PURCHASED WITH MONEY. This developer really can to some come across as as penny pinching, money grabbing and a kinda uncaring type … at times and maybe if that perceptive view changed some would be more inclined to return rather than play 60 levels for free in another game.

Don’t get me wrong I love this game but I think I’ve spent enough over the years to warrant a little more than handing over a sub to play 10% of the whole package, of which I have paid for previously hundreds of times over, and still can’t access that 90% if I stop paying a sub. So start giving and stop taking all the time… cus if they don’t other games will fast take away that ever dwindling player base.

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New and less grindy content on a more regular basis :).

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answering the title directly…

nothing they are doing now.

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Dunno

I think reducing timegating & grind, making anima account wide, ect would do it, but they already did

I’ve been seeing your for days posting nonsense on forums, being off topic, editing your posts multiple times till they end up being different posts than the original and then you delete most of them after someone replies,

I don’t think you are Okay
You’re not to be taken seriously , you’re a meme on the forums already

Some will return on their own but alot have picked up other games and realised they were only playing wow because it was all they knew.

The grass is always greener but on this side its almost black.

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I enjoyed the game most back in wrath, MoP, WoD - all of them had the same common things raiding vise:

  • no strange borrowed power systems grinds
  • no mandatory mythic+ for gear
  • you get gear in heroic dungeon and move on to normal/heroic raid.

Starting from legion, game started going down and down with all the mandatory grinds to raid, instead of just going in bashing.

The only borrowed power I trully enjoyed was in 8.3, since corruption/essence/azerite combo gave insanely wide build diversity for non min-maxers. But then again, it required grinding to raid.

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Removable of the 95 different borrowed powers, and going back to Azeroth

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Elitist… :grin:

MoP did have timegating it was just better disguised by the roll-out of the story, also reactionaries loathed and vilified ā€˜Pandaland’ as a concept as soon as it was announced by Blizz and for the entire duration of the Xpac.

Earlier Xpacs have all had elements of everything in the current Xpac (dailies started in TBC)…imho, Blizz did go a tad overboard with the sheer multiplicity of systems in this Xpac and adding that to the content drought, was not ideal.

However I’m still enjoying Shadowlands and if it means toxic content creators leave, taking their minions with them, then FFXIV is welcome to them… I have a fairly shrewd idea what is going to happen when the novelty of Cat girrrls and chest sliders wears off for SE’s new subs, but that Transmogs as end-game content issue is SE’s problem, they have largely just been lucky with the timing of their next Xpac launch.

Getting rid of the MinMax/boosting obsession and making the game rather more Zen to play, rather than everyone obsessing about their…ahem…performance… would imho, greatly improve the state of play.

I like borrowed power, reading between the lines of a lot of the criticism, the cheerleaders for removing it are Gatekeepers, with an agenda…so, no borrowed power actually translates as progression though either forelock tugging to Guild officers and/or or paid for boosting, in curated group content…Kerrrchiiiiing!

a) Solo ranked arena /rbg que.
b) solo que normal/heroic/mythic random raid que.
c) housing
d)B2p(buy only to play, no sub)
e)limited expansion gear limit; not being forced to grind gear at every patch.
f)5 man raids
g) Loot run rifts> similar to d3(chance to drop mythic raid level boe) ; Fast paced , lower hp mobs ; but more fluid gameplay
h)Dungeon and raid special buffs that appear out near the undergeared players(visible by only them) to encourage participation and smoothen the gear gap in raid and m+ environment. Reducing the gear dependance in pve content.
i) Strength in numbers buff (similar to d3)for friends that play in group ; greater loot chance while you are with your friends in group.
J) Defending azeroth against death invasion, world content similar to legion invasions.; possible story emergence related with titans or other big enttiies.
k) a storyline legendary based gameplay and cosmetic rewards; rather than gear based gameplay.
L)more puzzles
m) revival of archeology, implementing new professions, making mining and herbalism baseline professions.(similar to fishing)
n) Massively updating and optimising gameplay engine, making it run like 3 times faster than it used to be; reducing fps drops for low and mid end pc’s. Making it a more fluent and polished game for big content.
o) bringing caravan brutasaur back to game for gold as gold sink; or put it into the store for 6 month sub reward.
p) add wow token fragments > 30x fragments into a wow token You can drop it from daily activities .Bg,dungeon, quest etc with a low chance.(once a day)
r) Buy Dbm from it’s creator and implement it ingame so we dont have to look for it.
s)Make world pvp rewarding ; Gold,conquest, toys,mounts,titles,gear etc…
s)Put random interesting hidden rewards ALL over azeroth maps; similar to black ah cache;
ş)make ALL mounts sellable. you can ā€˜ā€˜wrap’’ the mount into a box and sell it into ah as a boe. (note that in order to wrap the mount; you need to drop it for yourself)
t)Make consumables great and varied ! Power hunger in pve is fun !
u)Reduce the potion cooldowns to 1 min .
v)Let us buy SL mats with Anima, Anima is nearly the most useless collectable unit in wow history. Potions are cheaper than SL mats which is an aberration market/demand situation. fix this.

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TL:DR

/10char

Nylu is a meme/troll, dont even bother replying to any of her posts, she will delete or change them