Hi,
as the title says, why are we given the choice, when using suboptimal builds is detrimental to performance of the party? What is the point of talents if choosing wrong ones is a good way to get yourself bullied?
Do not get me wrong, I really like the talent system itself and the dopamine rush coming from getting rewarded every time I level up. Also, I really enjoy planning my own build throughout the leveling process and the endgame.
However, what is the point if using my, potentialy suboptimal, build may result in strangers suggesting me to quit the game or end my life.
Meta builds are for people who want to be some of the best in the server theyâre on, if you donât care for that and are not in a hardcore guild it shouldnât really matter.
Any game where thereâs a character build mechanic will always have a âmetaâ build, this doesnât mean we should never see talents / choices in character building ever again
its a matter of dicothomy between fun and meta. my pally ret shouldnt take divine toll to be meta. but i dont give a crap and i talented it.
This is the way
And yet, judging by my pug experience, they do. The output difference between meta and non-meta builds can still be noticed in difficulties power than high m+ and mythic raiding. It cannot be said that people in m2-10 or normal raids do not expect top performance, especially in the playerbase that expects newbies to known all dungeons right from the start.
I did not think about it this way. Thatâs a valid point.
Stop playing with people like that and you donât have to worry about having the âwrongâ talents. Yes, people out there expect meta because they think something machine calculated is always going to be the best. Well Iâve always performed better with my own build than following meta and that is because meta doesnât take into account things like arthritis which makes my fingers slower and reaching keybinds harder. If meta makes me reach for keys Iâll end up messing up my rotation constantly which is a bigger dps loss than having simpler rotation and more passive talents.
But what about people in random groups? Block, report and move on.
Iâve pretty much never played a meta build in any game. Sure, Iâll try the meta and then change the things I donât like about it whether it is rotation or something like taking a talents that I find useless and replacing them with something Iâll get more use out of.
The prot paladin tree has a talent that allows you to take 25% less damage for 9 seconds on a one minute CD.
Itâs not on the âmetaâ tree because they chose a talent that increases dps by a tiny amount. If Iâm pushing content a little ungeared as a tank, is it stupid to not follow the meta?
Meta isnât always the same for every ladder, pull, dungeon or even healer. Meta doesnât matter and it shouldnât matter for low tier dungeons with low gear. Just play what you like
Well if you go Obliterate 2H with all ST talents into a M+, unless you completely delete bosses why would people not question your build choice?
That is like idk, going into a ST boss and casting only whirlwind because the animation is fun.
Like, when you do group content you should always build with the idea to have appropriate builds for the content you are doing.
Fun and experimentation should kinda be followed by logic, or personal preferences on some choices.
Imo when you build you should go like this:
You hate a talent because reasons and wanna swap it? Yes?
Then before swapping it out you should evaluate how much of a build enabler that talent is, if there are other talent that synergize with the rest of your spent points.