What's with the huge queue times for dungeons?

Pretty much this. In WoW I have tank main spec on each class that can tank, I just don’t tank for people I don’t know and trust. I also very rarely que as healer these days. Why? I’m tired of trying to read people’s minds, getting complaints about things that absolutely don’t matter (like pulling pack A instead of pack B when the packs are identical) and having dps pull (hate this both as a tank and as a healer). Also the modern day impatience and inability / unwillingness to read chat really annoys me.

In FFXIV I mostly play healers and tanks. Why not just play that game then? Because it isn’t WoW. Both games have aspects that they do better and for me one can’t replace the other.

Ecactly. This last sentence is the most important imo.

In WoW this is the opposite. While there is a social contract, the focus from the devs on e-sport aspects made it worse.

The focus on timed M+ made skipping routes the new standard. Failing to skip as much or pull massive packs even i normal runs will trigger elitist players. A wipe and it is even worse. So it developed a bad (some would say toxic) culture.

Tanks or healers often get the responsibility for “failure” of “perfect” runs. It is no wonder there is few tanks out there.

When you add the fact Evokers can’t tank it makes it worse. I mean if they had a black dragonflight tank spec i (and many others i think) would have played that.

warrior has protection spec

tank queue:0.5 sec

enjoy

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nah it was a bug they fixed it later in the evening :slight_smile:

If you are a warrior, you are tanking. Leave dps for mages, locks and rogues like it’s always been. My good friend from TBC times always played prot spec too, he just leveled as fury.

would make no sense for drakthyr to be tanks their basically battlemages and a magical race at that people seem to expect them to be warriors but that’s the society role of the Drakonids

Havent had any problems with queue … but I have been doing dungeons as a healer. :slightly_smiling_face:

Dps = long queue.
Healer = Short queue, but scream at your screen as you watch people for some reason constantly attempt to die. Why are they so suicidal? Contemplate not being healer and then remember short queue.

There is pain on all roles.

This is exactly why I made the post it’s not a non-issue. I’m not actually playing my warrior, I’m playing a dracthyr. I thought I’d give them ago since they are the new class.

The fact is with a new MMO expac I wouldn’t be expecting hour long queues for the levelling instances, I’m not max level I’m not talking about running high end things here. I’m talking 2 days in not being able to complete a dungeon quest because the queue time is through the roof.

It’s something they should really address. I’m also on a high pop server but I thought they implemented cross servers grouping? It Just doesn’t really bode well for the expac when it seems like they either completely dropped the ball by not implementing an additional tank role or made tanking specs unenjoyable enough that theirs not enough, or it’s not currently popular enough with the target audience to actually bring in more players.

I’m not trying the whole dead game speal, I’m enjoying what I’ve been able to play so far, but I’m guessing there’s alot of people like me. I’m the canary in the coal mine for my group, no one wanted to come back to another bad expac and they knew I was going to get it so they all are just waiting to hear if it’s as bad as the last 2 expacs before they buy. The problem is stuff like this is going to make people report back to their respective groups it’s not worth it, because currently it isn’t, I’ve enjoyed what I’ve played and I’ll keep playing for now but I wouldn’t advice anyone to blow their money on the expac with it’s current state.

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