What's wrong with the PvE community?

You realize you can buy all conduits and get them to lvl 252 without dungeons, right?

It is you who is in the wrong here, asking people who are helping you do “free content” to play at a lower level than they like. You’re asking them to be bored. The fun part in doing easy content is doing it fast. The fun is not in the challenge, as there is none, but in the speed and watching your mad dps break the dps meter.

You can’t be asking people to be bored while getting you your conduits, and then act as if you’re better than them.

Considering the title. I’d like to give my two cent. Since yesterday, I’ve been voicing my disapointment with the hunter talent tree in the respected section of the forum.

Every “abuse” I get, by being called toxic, or spoken down to like I’m incapeable of having a self thought, has been done by players who has no pvp experience at all.

Even worse, most are limited in the pve department, with being strickly m+ players.

I always try and tell them. I don’t combat either side of the spectrum. I’ve done it all. Raiding, m+, challenge modes, pvp. But I do agree with OP. I find strickly pve players to be far more hostile and toxic than any other player in the community, as of right now.

Ironicly, it used to be different. But that was more of a gorilla behaviour with “my dad can beat your dad”.

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Even tho it’s not 265 but that’s something, where do I buy them at 252?

Sitting 30+ min in queue without any guarantee of doing it fast is… not fast nor fun I’d claim?

Ye, I get that but where is the guarantee? I might be doing double the dps of the class they are looking for?

I mean if they are good, they don’t need to tryhard free content since there is actually no point. Also, it’s not like most +15 groups are tryharding it for +3. They usually do their weekly and that’s mostly the case on low geared alts. I am not joining them with some low geared no dmg alt or something.

This is the community that Blizzard cultivated with the current keystone system.

People have always been intolerant of failure (the failure of others and not their own ofc) since the advent of group content, but Blizzard decided to add even more consequences than “try again until you clear it” with M+.

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https://imgur.com/g964nyw
Just got into a group and got kicked out quite fast.
He doesn’t like me having PvP gear even tho versa+mastery are bis stats for M+ according to IcyVeins.
Sooo…

Nope, I don’t see it like this. You have an example right above. The community is just clueless, it has nothing to do with the system or the design.

Vendor in cave in Korthia. You need cataloged research currency tho.

Censor names in that print-screen, it can be interpreted as naming and shaming which is against the rules.

Thanks but I guess I’ll find a group faster and get the higher ilvl than farming those.

Honestly i have no idea.I went to a Halls today (Vault Farming) and the monk tank was high rating BUT he did not push it too hard.I enjoyed the dungeon and the run so much i even thanked him for it in the end.We timed it +2 or +3 i do not remember at all.His route and pulls were just right.

I can agree with the clueless part to an extent.

But it is more about how many people just do not want to “think”. That is why they wanted a score to represent ones value as a member as well as wanting to overcompensate as much as possible for each dungeon run

That’s what it all comes down to. It’s the mentality of the community.
This is what I had to join now lol:
https://imgur.com/RYoHsr9

This actually looks like a group of more fun to be around players

You are joining on this rogue? So dps? There are million dps applying to go into level 15. It is not that they are declining you, it is that they are waiting for better player and do not have spot for you. If you wish to get into the 15 level, use your key and see the applicants you get, notice that their score may be thousands more than yours, their gear may be more than yours, they will have more warcraftlog that confirms their skill while you may not have this reference.

Nah, Im done with japan games. I’d rather switch to bns, in the unlikely event that I get bored with wow, koreans just make a cute game with no drama or overblown ambitions.

I am not sure if you didn’t read properly or didn’t understand the point.
That’s the whole issue. It’s an already easy content, I am on a overgeard S tier spec with the right stats. How is better supposed to look like?

You should have read properly I guess. I am in literally every single aspect above all of these requirements. You can even check the other screenshot where a guy kicked me because of PvP gear even tho the stats are BIS for M+…

Fair, the entire genre could do with a shake-up really

https://imgur.com/LYZKFgw
3,5k+ score and “big” ilvl for +15… let’s go… the PvE community is not mental at all.
A 276 ilvl guy is basically telling me 274 ilvl is not enough. So basically if you don’t clear everything at ~25+ (?), you are not good enough to join a +15… please make it make sense…

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Arguing with an idiot isn’t going to make them smarter. He wants what he wants and even though its ridiculous its his key.

It’s the same with people that type “+9 need lust” or “+5 need venth shaman”. Just scroll past and don’t engage.

Also sure, you want a couple of quick 15’s. Have you ever put up a 15 in the group finder? You can have 70 dps applicants, you’re just a name on a list, no one cares if you have 3k.

Solo Content.

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